Yep, let's back neeld blindly for another 4 years. Yep, it's always the players fault.

Neeld hasn't got what it takes. His face squirms under pressure. He is a spiritual lightweight.

Viney as caretaker.

We need a proven premiership coach.

Let's go for malthouse or Roos.

Neeld is a bitter pill.

Yep, let's back neeld blindly for another 4 years. Yep, it's always the players fault.

Neeld hasn't got what it takes. His face squirms under pressure. He is a spiritual lightweight.

Viney as caretaker.

We need a proven premiership coach.

Let's go for malthouse or Roos.

Neeld is a bitter pill.

Yeah, good idea.

Let's change coaches - AGAIN.

Come on, use your fu%&ing brain.

The common thread in being an exceptionally poor side is not the coaching dept.

Malthouse on 3AW - time to do the things the players enjoy and focus on the things they do well - further criticism and negativity will be destructive. Then when they've got some confidence, go to the things that aren't well done.

I'm a Neeld fan - I hope Craig is in his ear supporting him and giving him this sort of advice.

The problem is clearly many of the players dont enjoy playing for the demons.

Malthouse on 3AW - time to do the things the players enjoy and focus on the things they do well - further criticism and negativity will be destructive. Then when they've got some confidence, go to the things that aren't well done.

I wrote something similar in April.

It has come to the point where for the good of the club and the supporters, the team needs to be playing to their strengths, not just what the latest trend in the game is.

Nothing will fix this. Te club itself is just a rabble. If players aren't prepared to execute, says a lot about the club, more than the playing group and coaching staff. A good culture makes players, even bad ones, WANT to play for the guernsey.

The problem is clearly many of the players dont enjoy playing for the demons.

No, they don't enjoy playing defensively and sticking to structures.

And it's only some of them, but still too many, and it's letting the rest of the team down.

Nothing will fix this. Te club itself is just a rabble. If players aren't prepared to execute, says a lot about the club, more than the playing group and coaching staff. A good culture makes players, even bad ones, WANT to play for the guernsey.

Constructive.

Malthouse on 3AW - time to do the things the players enjoy and focus on the things they do well ...

Like the things they were doing well when we lost by 186? And, let's not forget, every game since except an unconvincing win to GC.

If players aren't prepared to execute, says a lot about the club ...

!!! It says nothing about the club, but says everything about the players. Or enough of them for the damage to be done.

The problem is clearly many of the players dont enjoy playing for the demons.

You don't know that.

Like the things they were doing well when we lost by 186? And, let's not forget, every game since except an unconvincing win to GC.

I know what you mean. Bruise free footy is not an appealing prospect to me. But that's how bad MM (a mate of Neild) thinks things are!

Mark Neeld and the coaching group are in the best position to assess the performance of the talent on our list and to make decisions in relation to thier development. ....

Along similar lines, revealing post from another site, by a non-Dees supporter:

"I know one of the assistant coaches at the club. Said Neeld is still flogging the players like its pre-season to try and teach them how to train. Blokes like Watts who have been in a system for 4 years apparently still trains with no intensity, under Bailey him, and many other were always going to get games.

Some of the players have reacted badly to this (not hard to tell which ones), and he admitted they'll be 0-12 most likely, but second half of the year they'll ease the work load and (I think) win a few games.

This year is about getting rid of all the bad habits the young blokes gained over their time with Bailey, and pretty much re-teaching everything. One of those "take one step back to take two steps forward" things. Neeld knows what he's doing."

Edited May 20, 201213 yr by bing181

Along similar lines, revealing post from another site, by a non-Dees supporter:

"I know one of the assistant coaches at the club. Said Neeld is still flogging the players like its pre-season to try and teach them how to train. Blokes like Watts who have been in a system for 4 years apparently still trains with no intensity, under Bailey him, and many other were always going to get games.

Some of the players have reacted badly to this (not hard to tell which ones), and he admitted they'll be 0-12 most likely, but second half of the year they'll ease the work load and (I think) win a few games.

This year is about getting rid of all the bad habits the young blokes gained over their time with Bailey, and pretty much re-teaching everything. One of those "take one step back to take two steps forward" things. Neeld knows what he's doing."

Just like the Misson article on the club website and other things I've heard.

We are flogging them, so we'll be up to standard later this season, rather than having to wait til next year.

We're suffering now to accelerate our development.

Just like the Misson article on the club website and other things I've heard.

We are flogging them, so we'll be up to standard later this season, rather than having to wait til next year.

We're suffering now to accelerate our development.

Jose, this is scary, but we're on the same page for the second time in 48 hours.

Training time trials don't lie. The coaching team were shocked by the times the players were registering and kept it in - house.

The players need to harden up.

You don't know that.

Ofcourse, there is no evidence of this at all. Our performances suggest very happy players. Effort is up.

Neeld is hurting - he has passion. If half the players had his passion we might be registering scores that are above half our opponents.

Had a mate talk to a couple of senior players last week. The relationship between Neeld and the players doesn't seem rosy at the moment. Wether or not its Neelds fault or the fact that Melbourne players aren't' used to working so hard who knows. Either way, you can tell from the way we are playing there are some fairly large issues showing on the field. Theres the aspect of playing for your coach. I haven't seen them do it once this year. As terrible at times we were under Bailey he managed to most of the times get a response from the players the following week. We haven't seen this either this year.

I think it is obvious that some players are struggling under Neeld. And some of that goes to the feet of Neeld.

But the bad habits that some players got into in the last few years have to be dealt with.

And so we march on.

'We happy few...'

I've broken the list into three groups. Neeld's boys, unsure and not Neeld's Boys.

In my opinion Neeld needs to convert them. Meaning make them perform to potential. He can't afford to play them all year. He shoudl go down with his boys. otherwise they should go.

Neelds Boys

Jones

Clark

Magner

Howe

Watts

Jamar

Grimes

Trengove

Bartram

Tyan

Sellar

McDonald

Rivers ?

McKenzie ?

Martin ?

Garland ?

Frawley ?

Dunn ?

Blease ?

Bate ?

Bail ?

MacDonald ?

Not Neelds Boys (he needs to work on these boys)

Moloney

Davey

Sylvia

Green

Petterd

Morton

Left out injured players and guys who haven't played

Edited May 22, 201213 yr by disco_demon

I've broken the list into three groups. Neeld's boys, unsure and not Neeld's Boys.

In my opinion Neeld needs to convert them. Meaning make them perform to potential. He can't afford to play them all year. He shoudl go down with his boys. otherwise they should go.

Morton

I don't agree with this.

Morton was very happy to be given a fresh start under Neeld after Bailey 'tea-bagged' him in and out of the team.

He is inconsistent but showing some good signs.

To clarify ass i heard it again, Neeld says

something more like "we arnt interested in talent, talent will only get you so far in this game, we want people that want to play ect"

Barassi (anyone believe in him?) said words to the effect that he disdains players who have talent and don't put in the effort. I guess he wouldn't have a lot of time for #12 then, though Neeld surprisingly still seems supportive.

Barassi (anyone believe in him?) said words to the effect that he disdains players who have talent and don't put in the effort. I guess he wouldn't have a lot of time for #12 then, though Neeld surprisingly still seems supportive.

I think at this stage he is giving everyone a chance when they are fit, how much further these players go will be interesting as a numner of them seem to be sinking rather than swimming atm, can neeld help them swim or not?

No, they don't enjoy playing defensively and sticking to structures.

And it's only some of them, but still too many, and it's letting the rest of the team down.

Neeld needs to go and speak to each player individually, and ask them "will you play to my game plan". Watch their eyes, and if they equivocate even slightly, give them a map to Berwick-Cranbourne Road and tell them not to come back until they are prepared to do so without question.

One weak link will bring the whole team down.

They mightn't like it, we mightn't like it, but HE is the coach. Like it or lump it.

Insubordination cannot be tolerated - bring in the firing squad!!

MFC has been too soft for too long.

Edited May 23, 201213 yr by monoccular

show-down time, huh?

there may be other ways, less paranoid and less antagonistic....

Edited May 23, 201213 yr by robbiefrom13