I wonder if that twerp was still at the club if all the threads would be about his lack of games,heart,spirit,personality,commitment to paying taxes,poor dog ownership,bad haircuts,boring interviews,lack of kicks,too many handballs,being a daddy's boy,poor lawn mowing skills,his fondness of bad beer's,bad handwriting,his infatuation with snooki and his love of nikki webster albums! Gee I am glad his gone.

Edited March 21, 201213 yr by cowboy_from_hell

At least it may have taken some of the heat off Jack W

We've had alot of high picks on the back of some very dubious efforts by both the coach and the team.

We are simply reaping what we sowed. More average to good footballers to take us close but not all the way.

Unless Viney turns out to be as good as hoped and we pick up an elite midfielder we are stuck in mediocrity as always.

Losing Scully was a disaster for the club. He'll be a gun in the next few years.

He may as well be playing for the Ringwood 3rds because it wont affect us .Losing Scully was a necessary part of our march to inevitable Domination and constant victory .

He may as well be playing for the Ringwood 3rds because it wont affect us .Losing Scully was a necessary part of our march to inevitable Domination and constant victory .

Biffen does your CV show your job in Iraq?

He may as well be playing for the Ringwood 3rds because it wont affect us .Losing Scully was a necessary part of our march to inevitable Domination and constant victory .

Dribble on Biff if it makes you feel better. The reality remains that we've quite likely wasted several key picks and losing Scully leaves our midfield being led by B and C graders and a bunch of kids. Not ideal.

Cant believe people are still on about this bloke. Let it go. What is sad is that this thread has more posts than the Jimmy thread. FK Me!

Cant believe people are still on about this bloke. Let it go. What is sad is that this thread has more posts than the Jimmy thread. FK Me!

No thank you

Cant believe people are still on about this bloke. Let it go. What is sad is that this thread has more posts than the Jimmy thread. FK Me!

We'll Let it Go when we're Good & Ready.

It's Time that people learn not to deceive the MFC, or take us by Pinching our Salt. Those who DisHonour the Dees Jumper & the Club through this sort of Deceipt, should get to know the feeling Well. It'll be Hotter than a Kitchen in The Red Centre.

This board continually under-estimates the compensation we managed to achieve for Tom - I have this funny feeling at the end of this season this forums position may change somewhat.

Step 1 is complete we have actiavted both picks

Step 2 we have put 6-7 players on notice.

Step 3 we also let it drop to the wider AFL community we have a bucket load of salary cap space!!!

Step 4 - ??????

While I agree that people can stop posting about when they're good and ready, I am surprised anybody can be bothered with this discussion this week. I certainly can't - I don't have an ounce of energy or emotion for Tom or anything related to him at the moment.

This board continually under-estimates the compensation we managed to achieve for Tom - I have this funny feeling at the end of this season this forums position may change somewhat.

Step 1 is complete we have actiavted both picks

Step 2 we have put 6-7 players on notice.

Step 3 we also let it drop to the wider AFL community we have a bucket load of salary cap space!!!

Step 4 - ??????

This post reminds me of the Underpants Gnomes from South Park.

Step 1 - Steal Underpants

Step 2 - ??????

Step 3 - Profit!!

Picks 10 and 14 for a former No.1 pick is not a just trade and our only hope is to get an equally unjust trade with those picks with an interstate club to pick up a kid coming home.

As for the effects on the players and our salary cap room: I don't think the former will have any effect, and I think the latter is completely irrelevant to our comp picks.

Step 4 - ??????

Get Pendlebury.

i just thought there were more important things going on this week and this tired old topic could be given a rest.

Chill out.

Picks 10 and 14 for a former No.1 pick is not a just trade and our only hope is to get an equally unjust trade with those picks with an interstate club to pick up a kid coming home.

As for the effects on the players and our salary cap room: I don't think the former will have any effect, and I think the latter is completely irrelevant to our comp picks.

What like the former number 1 pick that we used to get our current captain? What pick was he 14ish???

This post re-minds me of a keyboard hero that has no concept of how to gauge future drafts.

Re SC - Had Tom stayed we would be 600K less in our salary cap space. Just think what 600K would get you this year!!!!!

What like the former number 1 pick that we used to get our current captain? What pick was he 14ish???

This post re-minds me of a keyboard hero that has no concept of how to gauge future drafts.

Re SC - Had Tom stayed we would be 600K less in our salary cap space. Just think what 600K would get you this year!!!!!

And minus Mitch Clark!

And minus Mitch Clark!

Good point. Mitch is forward loaded - so I doubt we could have taken the risk in grabbing him as well. Especially with the oncoming free-agency.

So its Mitch plus two top quality picks in this years draft (did I mention it could be the best draft ever!!!!)

Really ? I cant understand why students have to study for four to six year course to master it - should be much quicker.

So you think they interviewed him and failed to see the character flaws ? Or saw the character flaws but thought they could change him?

Again there are a plethora of articles and interviews with the kid predraft that speaks of his professionalism and his frenetic energy with training and bettering himself. I will wait for you to point me to any interview or article where there is a hint of a suggestion regarding his character at draft time.

this is pretty simple I think. He was drafted, he got offered to be in the top five paid players in the league. He picked the money. There is no character flaw there. Before you are offered huge money it is really easy to say I dont play for the money. Where he is flawed is that I now believe he lied in his March presser ( albeit in a system that forces players to lie). And there are 6 million reasons that caused this lying to emerge.

So you are aware of how easy it is to judge a character ? For certain patterns of behaviour to emerge defined stimuli are required. (6 million dollars of stimuli). Unless that stimuli existed at draft time then no no no - this judgement of character would not have been as easy and evident as you are making out.

How about talking to someone in the field and get a professional opinion and then you will be in a position to cast a balanced opinion on how easy it is to judge a character and how we failed.

Note - sorry to be so passionate about thisWYL but I think the club should be held accountable for decisions it makes that at the time, with the information and skill at their disposal, was decision that the club ( and most clubs) would not have made.

Szondy's regime allowing a tax bill to sit in a draw unpaid until it incurred huge penalties is something the club should be held accountable for. I just cant see how at the time of drafting we should have walked away from Scully.

Tom $cully made a commitment to money. I agree wirh that, & that is his right.

His character flaw is that he openly lied to all about it, no matter who he spoke to.

Only certain people can do that. As soon as he found out he was going to be drafted he knew exactly what his future was. The MFC was just first base. We haven't heard anything about the knee in 2012 have we...

He did the least amount of work that he could at our club, probably told by his management.

Many clubs may have drafted $cully, & i have no doubt he would have done the same thing.

He is a very smart boy, but all the media articles on him Tom is portrayed as the victim if you read carefully. A very salient point.

I am sure BP recruited Tom with the best intentions, but i am not at all suprised he no longer works for the MFC.

$cully lied to our Presidents face. Says a lot to me. Not many others could do that.

And Jimmy was wise enough to know it, and compassionate enough not to crucify Tom for doing it.

A great man our Jim.

And Jimmy was wise enough to know it, and compassionate enough not to crucify Tom for doing it.

A great man our Jim.

Yes that is true. But deep down it would have broken his heart too.

We need to land a gun from one of the new clubs lists. Someone who can lead our midfield to the top. They have to be truly elite or we won't win a flag. simple.

let's hope the club is upto it post Jimma. Might be a good job for one G. Lyon armed with a bucket load of salary cap space. Fingers crossed

What like the former number 1 pick that we used to get our current captain? What pick was he 14ish???

We spun a 28 year old, drunken lazy sh!t for Pick 14. He was hardly a 20 year old dedicated professional, albeit mindless simpleton, like Scully.

This post re-minds me of a keyboard hero that has no concept of how to gauge future drafts.

I don't even know what this means. How am I not evaluating future drafts properly?

Port Adelaide came to us with this proposition: Give us Trengove at Pick 2 and we will give you picks 8 and 9.

We said no.

That speaks volumes, or at least it should.

Re SC - Had Tom stayed we would be 600K less in our salary cap space. Just think what 600K would get you this year!!!!!

It got us Clark.

I believe we have more room, due to frontloaded contracts, in 2013 but we will see whether that will be relevant to the trading of our comp picks. It may not, as we may simply get a kid in the 2nd GWS Mini-draft that landed O'Meara for GC. In which case that cap space will not be utilised.

I would prefer they go after a Dangerfield/Gaff/Shuey in trade week with the comp picks and Sewell in FA, but failing that, attempt to spin a pick or both picks for the Mini Draft.

The Super Draft of 2001 © that everyone talks about landed more duds than A grade players from picks 10 to 20.

They are not worth what many think they are worth.

We spun a 28 year old, drunken lazy sh!t for Pick 14. He was hardly a 20 year old dedicated professional, albeit mindless simpleton, like Scully.

I don't even know what this means. How am I not evaluating future drafts properly?

Port Adelaide came to us with this proposition: Give us Trengove at Pick 2 and we will give you picks 8 and 9.

We said no.

That speaks volumes, or at least it should.

It got us Clark.

I believe we have more room, due to frontloaded contracts, in 2013 but we will see whether that will be relevant to the trading of our comp picks. It may not, as we may simply get a kid in the 2nd GWS Mini-draft that landed O'Meara for GC. In which case that cap space will not be utilised.

I would prefer they go after a Dangerfield/Gaff/Shuey in trade week with the comp picks and Sewell in FA, but failing that, attempt to spin a pick or both picks for the Mini Draft.

The Super Draft of 2001 © that everyone talks about landed more duds than A grade players from picks 10 to 20.

They are not worth what many think they are worth.

Good analysis

We spun a 28 year old, drunken lazy sh!t for Pick 14. He was hardly a 20 year old dedicated professional, albeit mindless simpleton, like Scully.

I don't even know what this means. How am I not evaluating future drafts properly?

Port Adelaide came to us with this proposition: Give us Trengove at Pick 2 and we will give you picks 8 and 9.

We said no.

That speaks volumes, or at least it should.

It got us Clark.

I believe we have more room, due to frontloaded contracts, in 2013 but we will see whether that will be relevant to the trading of our comp picks. It may not, as we may simply get a kid in the 2nd GWS Mini-draft that landed O'Meara for GC. In which case that cap space will not be utilised.

I would prefer they go after a Dangerfield/Gaff/Shuey in trade week with the comp picks and Sewell in FA, but failing that, attempt to spin a pick or both picks for the Mini Draft.

The Super Draft of 2001 © that everyone talks about landed more duds than A grade players from picks 10 to 20.

They are not worth what many think they are worth.

You stick to the politics son & let others worry about the football.

You stick to the politics son & let others worry about the football.

Wow.

That is some rich patronisation there. It's almost as good as when rpfc does it.

I usually back it up with something, but your way is good too...

Shouldn't it be DR.WTF?