Foundation dinner

[e25 5]

You're kidding right?! I mean what do you think a ceo does FCS?

I know, it pretty much makes him lose any credibility...

[cooko 124]

It was a really good night (glad I flew down from Sydney for it, but feel pretty ordinary today as a result).

Other than what seems already to have been reported here, some of my observations from the night are:

- Sylvia and the MFC are not very far apart on the numbers, so fingers crossed we'll get that deal done by season's end - Neita said Sylvia's "the most complete player on the list at the moment"; Viney and McLardy also rated him very highly - in short, the MFC wishes to keep him and it seems Sylvia wishes to stay - phew!

- Max Gawn is very popular with the coaches and the players - he's a bloody tall bloke BTW

- a few players said that, whilst they quite liked Dean Bailey, the week had become a real chore and it was stale during the week - he made them attend the club between 8am and 4pm each day for technical type lessons and it felt like attending school - a few of them said it was awesome to have Viney at the helm - made it feel like a footy club again and they felt more stimulated and energised already - for eg, the players were 'allowed' to have the afternoon off prior to the function and the following morning off - was like a breath of fresh air for them

- it was not said to me by anyone, but I formed the view that, if we get some good results in the remaining games, Viney may be tempted to throw his hat in the ring for the senior gig next year - IMO it would be absolutely awesome if he did as he would be a fantastic coach of this club

- Kelvin Lawrence is a great kid - he may sneak in a game towards the end of the year (despite still being a rookie) - I hope so at least - I sat at his table and no one at that stage had put in a bid for his guernsey, so I bought it (but only after he assured me he'd play 150 senior games for the club)

- there seems to be a genuine camaraderie amongst the players

- there are some massive wraps of Watts and McKenzie (but you all know that)

- Trengove - perhaps enough said already, but IMO this kid is the best recruit we've had in the last decade

Great report mate!!! Posts like this make me love demonland.. great work!

[e25 5]

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Thanks for the report, much appreciated.

[... 11]

My information is Schwab purchased a $80,000 desk in 1999. He was then sacked by Gutnick.

If that's true, and given our recent financial situation... a public flogging would fall short of the mark.

[e25 5]

If that's true, and given our recent financial situation... a public flogging would fall short of the mark.

I don't think CS would ever have been re-hired as CEO if deskgate had any truth to it.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

I know, it pretty much makes him lose any credibility...

Did he have some?

[H_T 3,043]

Thanks for the report RB.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

Great report mate!!! Posts like this make me love demonland.. great work!

+1

[old dee 23,759]

I don't think CS would ever have been re-hired as CEO if deskgate had any truth to it.

"Deskgate" I love it e25.

Bought a large smile to my face.

[Supermercado 2,797]

I don't think CS would ever have been re-hired as CEO if deskgate had any truth to it.

Is that the same desk that which had our $1.2m tax bill hidden in the bottom draw and forgotten about until 2003?

[beelzebub 23,313]

"Deskgate" I love it e25.

Bought a large smile to my face.

+1

[daisycutter 29,600]

- a few players said that, whilst they quite liked Dean Bailey, the week had become a real chore and it was stale during the week - he made them attend the club between 8am and 4pm each day for technical type lessons and it felt like attending school - a few of them said it was awesome to have Viney at the helm - made it feel like a footy club again and they felt more stimulated and energised already - for eg, the players were 'allowed' to have the afternoon off prior to the function and the following morning off - was like a breath of fresh air for them

Very interesting insight. Thanks for the info Ron, hadn't heard anything along those lines before.

[Supermercado 2,797]

Similar criticisms levelled at Matthew Knights if I recall correctly...

Mind you they were by Matthew Lloyd who is a [censored].

[H_T 3,043]

Similar criticisms levelled at Matthew Knights if I recall correctly...

Mind you they were by Matthew Lloyd who is a [censored].

Yeh, but Lloydy also wanted to stay in the goal square, fall over and chalk up 1000.

[mordja 187]

raised 10 desks....gold

Thanks for the report Ron

[jnrmac 20,053]

Is that the same desk that which had our $1.2m tax bill hidden in the bottom draw and forgotten about until 2003?

Good memory. One of those desks with a big bottom drawer!

[jnrmac 20,053]

Very interesting insight. Thanks for the info Ron, hadn't heard anything along those lines before.

I also thought very interesting.

WHen you get a 'development' coach they spend a lot of time with young players trying to mould them into the players they ultimately want. The problem is there is no point at which you say "Stop, you have developed enough. Now I'm going to be a tough taskmaster of a coach because you have learned everything there is to know". DB wasn't able to demand performance like a Malthouse would because of his 'relationship' with the players.

It was a criticism I always had of Daniher. Way too friendly/matey with the players.

COudln't/wouldn't drop Yze, RObbo and WHite when it was clear they were underperforming for a long time.

Making the transition is very difficult for a coach. That is why DB (while having been a bit dudded IMO) is probably best to have been moved on. Hopefuly we can get a See You Next Tuesday coach like Clarkson who will demand better performances.

Our players need a rocket up their clacker. They have had enough mollycoddling.

Edited August 11, 2011 by jnrmac

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

My old man went. Said that word was passed around that Jim is gravely ill after his most recent operation.

That is what i am hearing today as well....

We must all be strong for Jim Stynes right now....

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

Depends on the vision of the club. David Neitz would be a good shout. A good Melbourne man who has cut his teeth with the Mates of Melbourne brand. If they're looking to point someone with experience there are many of solid candidates out there.

Your solution is David Neitz to be the CEO for a multi million dollar business. And what qualifications does the big Neita have for such a multi leveled position Danny?

I was asking a serious question, your answer was severe left field at best.

[TrueBeliever 1]

Very interesting insight. Thanks for the info Ron, hadn't heard anything along those lines before.

yeah the player I spoke to at the dinner said the same thing, very happy to have a little more time to do things outside training etc

Great night well done MFC

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

yeah the player I spoke to at the dinner said the same thing, very happy to have a little more time to do things outside training etc

Great night well done MFC

Must be a very crucial decision for the football department...to balance training, reviews, one on one chats, theory, and time off in order to get the best out of 44 different personalities.

[jnrmac 20,053]

Your solution is David Neitz to be the CEO for a multi million dollar business. And what qualifications does the big Neita have for such a multi leveled position Danny?

I was asking a serious question, your answer was severe left field at best.

What experience did Schwab have?? None. He has worked infooty al his life and done a few business courses.

I think its a problem.

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

What experience did Schwab have?? None. He has worked infooty al his life and done a few business courses.

I think its a problem.

Could be, i cannot answer that..i am not inside the doors, but i doubt that David Neitz is qualified...We need a Brian Cook attitude.

[Deetective Sgt. Taggert 389]

Must be a very crucial decision for the football department...to balance training, reviews, one on one chats, theory, and time off in order to get the best out of 44 different personalities.

Hmm. Good point. I would imagine that a ultra-professional player like Scully would actually relish being at the club 8 till 4, which may in part explain his apparent 'closeness' to Bailey. He might be be turned off by a more 'casual' approach.

However, I also sure that the change would have been implemented by the club primarily to give they players some time to come to terms with Baileys sacking (and probably because Viney wouldn't have had an intensive program ready to roll out even if he wanted to). So I don't think we should read too much into it.

[east gippsland demon 7]

I also thought very interesting.

WHen you get a 'development' coach they spend a lot of time with young players trying to mould them into the players they ultimately want. The problem is there is no point at which you say "Stop, you have developed enough. Now I'm going to be a tough taskmaster of a coach because you have learned everything there is to know". DB wasn't able to demand performance like a Malthouse would because of his 'relationship' with the players.

It was a criticism I always had of Daniher. Way too friendly/matey with the players.

COudln't/wouldn't drop Yze, RObbo and WHite when it was clear they were underperforming for a long time.

Making the transition is very difficult for a coach. That is why DB (while having been a bit dudded IMO) is probably best to have been moved on. Hopefuly we can get a See You Next Tuesday coach like Clarkson who will demand better performances.

Our players need a rocket up their clacker. They have had enough mollycoddling.

Just to add to the mollycoddling by the coach theory , Brian Royal attended a Bairnsdale fc premiership reunioun a couple of monthes ago and said that we had a great list but that they were being treated far too softly. " Theyre too soft on em" were his words which i thought interesting as i would have thought he was a big part of the they. Can only assume he meant Bailey.