The No T$ No B$ Thread

[beelzebub 23,392]

thing is DC...PT is and ought to be a Public Service provision. By all means run it properly but that often is at loggerheads with pennypinching and eyes only on the bottom line.

To have allowed two incompatible train designs loose on once homogeneous network was ridiculous. Had there been ONE authority overseeing this wed have saved millions...Remember.. the franchise didnt buy the trains..just ordered them WE paid for them. One lot the crappy french Xtraps cant even run safely at theposted speeds allowed. Brilliant !!

btw I have much respect for Ingénierie Française, but those xtraps were from the bargain basement

what other city allows more than one body to oversee one element of infrastructure ?? f'n stupidity to the x !!

[DemonFrog 1,359]

Lots of power over here.

Wait a sec just turning on my other air conditioner just because I can.

That better, life great LOL

[daisycutter 30,021]

don't doubt it bb, and as i said i'm swayed towards the notion pt should be a ps utility

i was just pointing out that that won't be the end of "issues", big or small. remember myki was a govt decision

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

  On 16/01/2014 at 01:54, daisycutter said:

don't doubt it bb, and as i said i'm swayed towards the notion pt should be a ps utility

i was just pointing out that that won't be the end of "issues", big or small. remember myki was a govt decision

Agreed, DC. The thing that swings it for me in favour of public ownership is that then the water or electricity (or whatever) provider has an incentive to decrease demand, rather than increase it, whereas private such providers tend to want to increase everything. If nothing else, the drought of a few years ago should have taught us that we can't take supply of these things for granted ...

Other than that, it comes down to whoever has the best bananas ...

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

  On 15/01/2014 at 23:50, old dee said:

That is my understanding as well dc.

Bring back the SEC I say.

We have been on the downhill slide ever since Jeff sold it.

The slide started once Sir John Monash (of WWI fame) stopped running it ... Once great, now struggling to do its job --- sounds a bit like a certain football club ...

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 16/01/2014 at 01:54, daisycutter said:

don't doubt it bb, and as i said i'm swayed towards the notion pt should be a ps utility

i was just pointing out that that won't be the end of "issues", big or small. remember myki was a govt decision

The idea of subdividing the transit system under the notion of "competition " was the start of the rot. How can there be competition with different elements servicing different destinations etc. It was flawed as a concept and buggered in delivery. Yes that was a Govt decision... a bad one.

Myki , also a Govt introduction. The authority, any authority that actual RAN a system didn't want it as was full of problems from the get go..it too a govt decision not an PT one, they just have to wear it. these things occurred as result of 'agendas' not genuine progress

[daisycutter 30,021]

PT whether utility run or privately operated is too painful to discuss

when i think of all the wasted money and dumb decisions i could cry

and to cap it off no-one pays anyway (well mostly)

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

  On 15/01/2014 at 04:30, daisycutter said:

little correction bbo, its "The Peoples Republic of Mornington Peninsula and Boganville"

you know how i like to pay attention to detail

Sounds like it is the Powerless Republic of Mornington Peninsula and Boganville today ... Blackout at Frankston Shopping Centre

Perhaps the North and West are needlessly worried?

[beelzebub 23,392]

and then we come back to utilities where less is more.

you use less, you pay more

[beelzebub 23,392]

Last i heard Portsea and Sorrento were trying to distance themselves further by establishing a Principality !!

[DemonFrog 1,359]

Ouch!

You guys do have real issues over there it seems.

I would have blamed BBO, Biff and Moonie but it appears this issue is bigger then them.

[DemonFrog 1,359]

Just think last week this was me.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

  On 16/01/2014 at 05:23, DemonFrog said:

Just think last week this was me.

You enjoy a bit of cross dressing [censored]?

Now there is a remarkable thing, fl og was censored!

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 16/01/2014 at 05:23, DemonFrog said:

Just think last week this was me.

which one ?

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

  On 16/01/2014 at 04:57, DemonFrog said:

Ouch!

You guys do have real issues over there it seems.

I would have blamed BBO, Biff and Moonie but it appears this issue is bigger then them.

Rationality of that sort never seems to stop Demonlanders (with the exception of this thread, generally )

[Biffen 12,949]

  On 16/01/2014 at 05:57, Bitter but optimistic said:

You enjoy a bit of cross dressing [censored]?

Now there is a remarkable thing, fl og was censored!

  On 16/01/2014 at 05:57, Bitter but optimistic said:

You enjoy a bit of cross dressing [censored]?

Now there is a remarkable thing, fl og was censored!

Is FL OG the blonde or the burnt looking pommy with the big teeth.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

  On 16/01/2014 at 10:54, Biffen said:

Is FL OG the blonde or the burnt looking pommy with the big teeth.

Any Irish virgins in that lot?

[Moonshadow 17,678]

  On 16/01/2014 at 05:23, DemonFrog said:

Just think last week this was me.

Aren't you the skinny dude hiding behind the palm tree holding a pair of binoculars? Right hand side, look closely.....

[DemonFrog 1,359]

  On 16/01/2014 at 05:57, Bitter but optimistic said:

You enjoy a bit of cross dressing [censored]?

Now there is a remarkable thing, fl og was censored!

Silly Silly

I would have been taking the picture on a tropical island in Madagascar.

But you boys did get excited and would have been thinking how cool these ladies are.

LOL

[Biffen 12,949]

  On 16/01/2014 at 11:07, Bitter but optimistic said:

Any Irish virgins in that lot?

Is that anything like a Greek Virgin?

[Whispering_Jack 31,368]

  On 16/01/2014 at 04:56, beelzebub said:

Last i heard Portsea and Sorrento were trying to distance themselves further by establishing a Principality !!

With Lindsay Fox as Prince for life and building a private swimming pool on crown land adjacent to the royal palace.

All hail, Prince Lindsay!!!

Come to think of it we could do with some hail right now.

[Redleg 42,174]

Don't know how they can play tennis in the heat. I think it is just plain dangerous and the officials have failed the players.

[Biffen 12,949]

  On 16/01/2014 at 12:32, Redleg said:

Don't know how they can play tennis in the heat. I think it is just plain dangerous and the officials have failed the players.

They will be Skiing next week if they live.

In the meantime-let 'em fry.

[old dee 24,083]

  On 16/01/2014 at 12:32, Redleg said:

Don't know how they can play tennis in the heat. I think it is just plain dangerous and the officials have failed the players.

Yep.

Where are work care?

Edited January 16, 2014 by old dee

[daisycutter 30,021]

  On 16/01/2014 at 22:50, old dee said:

Yep.

Where are work care?

well they're not at essendrug that's for sure