Grounds for divoice, I would have thought Earl.

I am just a mere Justinian to my wife's Theodora perhaps. If you know the story.

Not that I want to be accused of being a lawyer or something. Far from it Justinian was about more than his revamping of the code.

Edited July 19, 201510 yr by Earl Hood

What can I say here I am in the cold back room at home tuning into my old television to look at not the ashes but the SBS series on Byzantium while SWMBO and several other female relatives have commandeered the main TV to watch that abomination, The Voice! Barbarians! Anyway it is a bit cold but I have a bottle of red to keep me company.

I have a theory that red wine can solve the climate change debate.

I always find that by late in the first bottle or early into the second, any concerns about cold, or any other variation on climate seem to magically disappear.

I have a theory that red wine can solve the climate change debate.

I always find that by late in the first bottle or early into the second, any concerns about cold, or any other variation on climate seem to magically disappear.

Good one bjDee by the way have you managed to ride your bike to the Wild Timor Coffee House in coburg yet? And you are right I am no longer feeling the cold even though there is no heater here! It must be the wine.

Good one bjDee by the way have you managed to ride your bike to the Wild Timor Coffee House in coburg yet? And you are right I am no longer feeling the cold even though there is no heater here! It must be the wine.

I hope that's not one of those fair trade coffee shops Earl.

If there is one thing I don't like it's a fair trade.

Where would enterprise be without exploitation?

I hope that's not one of those fair trade coffee shops Earl.

If there is one thing I don't like it's a fair trade.

Where would enterprise be without exploitation?

Whoops it is perhaps the ultimate fair trade coffee shop Biff. I have told the story before but again for your information the origins are from some Aussie peace keepers working in Timor Leste who stumbled on this valley in upland Timor and found these locals tending ancient wild coffee trees originally planted by the Portuguese a few centuries ago. Anyway the locals were being exploited and nothing for their beans but the OZ peace keepers bought a few hundred kilos at a fair price and brought them back to Coburg and so began the Coffee house. Good story I think but yes it may test your moral standards Biff.

Good one bjDee by the way have you managed to ride your bike to the Wild Timor Coffee House in coburg yet? And you are right I am no longer feeling the cold even though there is no heater here! It must be the wine.

Well, Earl, I'm sure the bike could make it there, but it's rider is not yet capable. I've looked at it via the goggles on the goggle map but have been hamstrung by a couple of hamstring injuries brought on by that wretched game of hockey that I insist on playing. I promise you I will one day make it to Timor on the bike, but should I be looking for Wild Timor or Timor Leste? And if I go off course and hit West Papua, is it just a turn to the left to get me to Timor?

Whoops it is perhaps the ultimate fair trade coffee shop Biff. I have told the story before but again for your information the origins are from some Aussie peace keepers working in Timor Leste who stumbled on this valley in upland Timor and found these locals tending ancient wild coffee trees originally planted by the Portuguese a few centuries ago. Anyway the locals were being exploited and nothing for their beans but the OZ peace keepers bought a few hundred kilos at a fair price and brought them back to Coburg and so began the Coffee house. Good story I think but yes it may test your moral standards Biff.

I am quite sympathetic to the Timorese Earl and I will let this one slide.

I'm sure the billions we rob them for on the gas fields will cover it.

I am quite sympathetic to the Timorese Earl and I will let this one slide.

I'm sure the billions we rob them for on the gas fields will cover it.

Good point Biff I am impressed with your empathy for our colonial friends in Timor Leste. But given I have now finished my bottle of red in the back room I am wondering how did we get here after I was watching Byzantium? After all I am still lamenting the fall of Constantinople in 1453.

Whoops it is perhaps the ultimate fair trade coffee shop Biff. I have told the story before but again for your information the origins are from some Aussie peace keepers working in Timor Leste who stumbled on this valley in upland Timor and found these locals tending ancient wild coffee trees originally planted by the Portuguese a few centuries ago. Anyway the locals were being exploited and nothing for their beans but the OZ peace keepers bought a few hundred kilos at a fair price and brought them back to Coburg and so began the Coffee house. Good story I think but yes it may test your moral standards Biff.

What's your retainer Earl? You must be in the payroll there....

Good point Biff I am impressed with your empathy for our colonial friends in Timor Leste. But given I have now finished my bottle of red in the back room I am wondering how did we get here after I was watching Byzantium? After all I am still lamenting the fall of Constantinople in 1453.

Yes well we would need to bring the portuguese into the equation if we are to travel further east.Perhaps another 250 years.

Better open another.

What's your retainer Earl? You must be in the payroll there....

No retainer Moons, just can vouch for the coffee, it is top shelf. Great coffee places deserve to be publicised because they are fairly rare.

No retainer Moons, just can vouch for the coffee, it is top shelf. Great coffee places deserve to be publicised because they are fairly rare.

And rarely fair

With about 7 games left, they are saying Frost is out for 5. You would think they could just say season and be done with it.

With about 7 games left, they are saying Frost is out for 5. You would think they could just say season and be done with it.

But then they would be lying.

And Misson never fibs.

But then they would be lying.

And Misson never fibs.

Next week should be good with 6 games left and they say 4-6 for Frost.

With about 7 games left, they are saying Frost is out for 5. You would think they could just say season and be done with it.

so... 4 to 6 is officially 5 !! Who'd da thunk

so... 4 to 6 is officially 5 !! Who'd da thunk

give or take.....sort of....

so... 4 to 6 is officially 5 !! Who'd da thunk

Thought it was 2

Thought it was 2

im sure you meant ' i thought it was too'

so... 4 to 6 is officially 5 !! Who'd da thunk

I thought 4 to 6 was at least 10 and probably the season ...

I thought 4 to 6 was at least 10 and probably the season ...

That's what it has been in the past for a few players.

Uncle Bitter reporting in ferals.

The squeeze and myself had a gift voucher for a Yarra Valley Winery tour. Used it yesterday - 4 wineries, Lunch and accomm.

I can only remember the name of one of the wineries - St. Huberts - so that may indicate how the day degenerated. There was another couple on this tour. Never seen anything like it!! They were actually spitting wine out !!! cAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?

Anyway good old Bitters laboured on and sloshed down anything put in front of him.

I had a great day but still a tad worse for wear.

The squeeze is rather silent on the matter. Can't understand sheilas sometimes.

Uncle Bitter reporting in ferals.

The squeeze and myself had a gift voucher for a Yarra Valley Winery tour. Used it yesterday - 4 wineries, Lunch and accomm.

I can only remember the name of one of the wineries - St. Huberts - so that may indicate how the day degenerated. There was another couple on this tour. Never seen anything like it!! They were actually spitting wine out !!! cAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?

Anyway good old Bitters laboured on and sloshed down anything put in front of him.

I had a great day but still a tad worse for wear.

The squeeze is rather silent on the matter. Can't understand sheilas sometimes.

Some of us can't understand them any time ...

Uncle Bitter reporting in ferals.

The squeeze and myself had a gift voucher for a Yarra Valley Winery tour. Used it yesterday - 4 wineries, Lunch and accomm.

I can only remember the name of one of the wineries - St. Huberts - so that may indicate how the day degenerated. There was another couple on this tour. Never seen anything like it!! They were actually spitting wine out !!! cAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?

Anyway good old Bitters laboured on and sloshed down anything put in front of him.

I had a great day but still a tad worse for wear.

The squeeze is rather silent on the matter. Can't understand sheilas sometimes.

bbo, if i might suggest that if the squeeze was most unimpressed that next time you do a grand yarra valley wine grazing extravaganza that you take stuie along instead

that way you might be able resolve your apparent (and very public) mutual cyber stalking of each other over a glass or two

you could either glass each other or partake in some real stalking (so to speak)

Don't be vulgar dc.