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I think its an absolute disgrace the way Fev has been treated by the media and VOSS FC (and we know what the FC stands for)

At the end of the day, Yes there has been some misbehaviour, but what has he done that most aussie blocks haven't done before

How about VFC actually look after an individual that has a significant illness ie depression, alcohol and gambling addictions and support him rather than showing him the front door. How about putting him on a long term injury list and try and support him through this issue They knew what they were getting so they can't [censored] and moan when things don't go their way.

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I think its an absolute disgrace the way Fev has been treated by the media and VOSS FC (and we know what the FC stands for)

At the end of the day, Yes there has been some misbehaviour, but what has he done that most aussie blocks haven't done before

How about VFC actually look after an individual that has a significant illness ie depression, alcohol and gambling addictions and support him rather than showing him the front door. How about putting him on a long term injury list and try and support him through this issue They knew what they were getting so they can't [censored] and moan when things don't go their way.

Have to agree. Fev's a mess. He's not alone on that front. If the club and the AFL were going to show some real leadership on such problems they would put him on the long term injury list and help him rebuild his shattered life. Depression's a serious illness and sacking him is only going to push him further down the wrong path.

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Coaches/managers are made or broken on the big decisions and with this one Vossy went all in at the roulette wheel and rolled a big fat zero.

They're in for several seasons of pain up there. You'd have to think his odds of surviving are very slim.

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theyve sacked the wrong bloke !!!!! :rolleyes:

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Just a bit of a naughty boy eh ? IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A DECADE ! One incident in the early 2000's was particularly nasty when the proprietress of an Erroll St dry cleaners had to be rescued by passersby from a drunken Fev(with Ryan Houlihan) who were aggressively harassing her at about 8 in the morning !

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Well, he knoiws hes been a nong and his behavior ought have come as no surprise to the Lions. For them to feigh indignity and disappointment etc as a prelude to their current offer to Fev is laughable. They knew exactly what he was/is.

A million dollars ?? Theyre trying to get out cheap. Personally I hope Fevs legal team go the throat , The Lions signed for more than that, they ought to cough up. Fev will need a few dollars for the help he still needs.

and the Gag clause...hmm...wonder what else they ( Lions) are worried about ??

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But he hasn't seeked help before, learning how to deal with something like depression you need professional help and you need rehab to really learn how to deal with it. If he can learn to deal with it get on his medication stay of the grog he is worth another chance.

He dislikes eliteists & silver spoonists & can't be like them. So he could Never survive @ the Blues. that, IMO, is the reason he resented the silver tongued Judd.

Too much bagage going forward to Brisbane, with his marital & family issues culminating with the wife not likeing being away from her comfort zone, (Melbourne),, and returning home without him. that would spin anyones head with their Kids & wife in dispute leaving for interstate whilst your contracted to stay interstate.

IMO, he Is a good fit for the Saints. He is what they're missing, positional wise. They need that representation from 30 to 70 Mtrs out. So, in saying that, I'm of the opinion that in coming back to Melbourne, & at a club like StKilda, where I believe he would feel more comfortable, he could settle down amongst more blue collar people. This, I think would be more to his liking.

We know he Can Play footy.

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If the club and the AFL were going to show some real leadership on such problems they would put him on the long term injury list and help him rebuild his shattered life. Depression's a serious illness and sacking him is only going to push him further down the wrong path.

How about the individual take responsibility for their own disposition. I would have thought the AFL and club showed "real leadership" when they stupidly gave him a second chance in AFL up in Brisbane after the train wreck of incidents he had performed at Carlton. And you have no idea what impact the sacking would have on him. Given he is so far down the wrong path how far can he go?


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IMO, he Is a good fit for the Saints. He is what they're missing, positional wise. They need that representation from 30 to 70 Mtrs out. So, in saying that, I'm of the opinion that in coming back to Melbourne, & at a club like StKilda, where I believe he would feel more comfortable, he could settler down amongst more blue collar people. This, I think would be more to his liking.

We know he Can Play footy.

I cant believe that given what he has done at Carlton and Brisbane that posters would blindly arrange for Fevola to play like he is a plug in electric toaster. And defining clubs these days as elitist or blue collar is fairy tale stuff.

The issue with Fevola is not white/blue collar issue. He is just self harming destructive individual whose problems are independent of social stratum or economic disposition.

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I'd have thought the Saints would now be going all-out to rebuild their reputation, not diminish it further by adding Fevola to the mix.

And I think the AFL would do just about anything to keep the problematic Fevola away from their GWS love-child.

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I'd have thought the Saints would now be going all-out to rebuild their reputation, not diminish it further by adding Fevola to the mix.

And I think the AFL would do just about anything to keep the problematic Fevola away from their GWS love-child.

At the very least.....

Given the tattered reputation the Saints have had, Fevola would be the last person they would pick up.

And given the bruising the AFL directly and indirectly taken through the individual clubs, I would think there would be zero tolerance for the likes of Fevola and Nixon.

Fevola is finished in the AFL. Its more important that he had rebuilds a function life for himself in society.

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Hes 30 now...hes outta here !!! Hell need to maximise that payout as his footy ( AFL ) is over now.

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Those calling for the Lions to support a bloke with a serious illness, ie. depression...

You realise they CAN support the bloke, without having to pay him millions of dollars to play footy?

A task which seems to now be beyond him?

Support him by all means, but that doesn't mean it has to be unfairly weighted in his advantage.

The bloke has stuffed up, has no one else to blame and needs to sort himself out.

If the only way he can do that is by getting paid millions to not effectively do a job, then I'm afraid he's in a lot of trouble, with or without the Lions help.

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I think the next logical step for Fev is to start going out with the St Kilda schoolgirl.

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I think the next logical step for Fev is to start going out with the St Kilda schoolgirl.

Ah, HaHaHa. You got me. I had to laugh.

He'll be ready to be back in Melbourne soon, hopefully to continue his rehab.

I wish him well for his future.

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I think the next logical step for Fev is to start going out with the St Kilda schoolgirl.

I think he will be a lot smarter and wiser than the others. He'll wait till she turns 18.

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There's something wrong with this argument:

Fev could make a massive effort to turn his life around and prove that he's a reformed character so that a club might be convinced to pick him up on minimum contract.

His AFL career is finished.

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How about the individual take responsibility for their own disposition.

By checking into Rehab. Done.

I would have thought the AFL and club showed "real leadership" when they stupidly gave him a second chance in AFL up in Brisbane after the train wreck of incidents he had performed at Carlton.

The club showed no leadership at all. Brisbane's only motive in recruiting Fevola was his ability to kick goals and hopefully play a part in Voss's ridiculous attempt to squeeze out one more Premiership for the club and his aging friends. To think otherwise is fanciful.

And you have no idea what impact the sacking would have on him. Given he is so far down the wrong path how far can he go?

Fevola himself says he is shattered by the sacking so this gives me a fair idea of the impact on him. Depression has no limits as the high suicide rates prove. Don't even suggest that he can't go further down the path, he's only just beginning.

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By checking into Rehab. Done.

The club showed no leadership at all. Brisbane's only motive in recruiting Fevola was his ability to kick goals and hopefully play a part in Voss's ridiculous attempt to squeeze out one more Premiership for the club and his aging friends. To think otherwise is fanciful.

Fevola himself says he is shattered by the sacking so this gives me a fair idea of the impact on him. Depression has no limits as the high suicide rates prove. Don't even suggest that he can't go further down the path, he's only just beginning.

Well said Roost...I have genuine concerns for Fevola's ongoing life. The Media are going to eat him alive if he stays anywhere in australia.

Regardless of his past misdemeanors Fev has been separated from his family & kids in a foreign state, so for those to say he is not shattered and very vulnerable right now is just down right wrong. Brendon Fevola's life is very dark right now & it will take a long time before the sunshine again.

Anyone who has had any dealings with rehab or anyone within rehab will no what i mean.

It's about time this subject was closed i believe, if you need to do anymore reading on it i am sure the Herald Sun will suffice your needs.

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By checking into Rehab. Done.

Caro Wilson wrote in the Age today:

"Fevola's manager Alastair Lynch has ''handled'' the situation quite brilliantly. With Fevola's life and career spiralling out of control again after yet another bender he took the inspired decision to place the troubled star in a rehabilitation facility.

Alistair Lynch checked Fev into rehab.

You are easily impressed. Only when Fev hits rock bottom and takes the responsibility for his actions and actually demonstrates that he can be more functional person in the community.

The club showed no leadership at all. Brisbane's only motive in recruiting Fevola was his ability to kick goals and hopefully play a part in Voss's ridiculous attempt to squeeze out one more Premiership for the club and his aging friends. To think otherwise is fanciful.

The motive of Brisbane to recruit players to improve their list is correct. The decision to Fevola was not correct. Sometimes we forget that Brisbane is a football club and not a Salvation Army with responsibiilities to its members, sponsors and the other players on the list. Fevola failed his side of the contractual obligations.

Fevola himself says he is shattered by the sacking so this gives me a fair idea of the impact on him. Depression has no limits as the high suicide rates prove. Don't even suggest that he can't go further down the path, he's only just beginning.

Please dont patronise me with any generalisations on depression. You dont know Fevola's actual disposition and making assumptions about the condition does not help.

And btw the way I would be totally devastated too if I got a $1 million plus payout when I actually screwed up on my contract conditions, embarrassed my employer and workmates repeatedly with my public and not so public and humiliated family members. Abosolutely shattered.

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On the money Roost.

He finally began the right rd to recovery yet the club chopped off his feet when it all got to hard.

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The Media are going to eat him alive if he stays anywhere in australia.

If he laid low and got his life together without getting into trouble and making a fool of himself in public situations then the media will have no further oxygen to run its circus. Its exactly the same with Cousins. He is trying to get on with his life. Benny's past is done is present is his own. Really you claim to work in the media and you should know better.

Regardless of his past misdemeanors Fev has been separated from his family & kids in a foreign state, so for those to say he is not shattered and very vulnerable right now is just down right wrong. Brendon Fevola's life is very dark right now & it will take a long time before the sunshine again.

Anyone who has had any dealings with rehab or anyone within rehab will no what i mean.

Fevola can take and should take responsibility for the terrible position he is in. He has had 13 years of senior football and has been trouble from start to finish. His marriage is a consequence of this.

And I dont why you are making any statements about Fevola's actual disposition because you dont know where he is at. No one does. Depression and rehabilitation not an issue you can generalise with a stereotype. And whatever personal experiences you may or may not have had do not necessarily correspond with the actual situation that Fev is in.

if you need to do anymore reading on it i am sure the Herald Sun will suffice your needs.

The Defence rests your honour.... :rolleyes:

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If he laid low and got his life together without getting into trouble and making a fool of himself in public situations then the media will have no further oxygen to run its circus. Its exactly the same with Cousins. He is trying to get on with his life. Benny's past is done is present is his own. Really you claim to work in the media and you should know better.

Fevola can take and should take responsibility for the terrible position he is in. He has had 13 years of senior football and has been trouble from start to finish. His marriage is a consequence of this.

And I dont why you are making any statements about Fevola's actual disposition because you dont know where he is at. No one does. Depression and rehabilitation not an issue you can generalise with a stereotype. And whatever personal experiences you may or may not have had do not necessarily correspond with the actual situation that Fev is in.

The Defence rests your honour.... :rolleyes:

Rhino i don't think you fully comprehend that Brendon Fevola has a mental illness. He is not going to just wake up one morning and say "I am all better now so i can take full control of my life" It doesn't work that way.

Fev has never grown up, he is still a child. I am not excusing him for what he has done, i am just being honest about it.

When he is happy-he is absolutely happy and conversely his lows are black as. As far as the Media goes, it's pretty hard to lay low if the cameras are parked on your front lawn (and they will be). And i am genuinely concerned how he is going to handle all this stuff.

Ben Cousins is way smarter than Fev, Ben may have stuffed up, but he is a fighter. And for all his troubles he may well become a better person for it all-Fev is not a fighter like that. I hope he has not burnt all his close friends and relatives because he is going to need them.

For most addicts "getting there life back together" is a nice sentiment, but it aint easy. Fev will live day to day for a long time i assure you.

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On the money Roost.

He finally began the right rd to recovery yet the club chopped off his feet when it all got to hard.

You watch, IMO the Lions have Changed Tak. And are starting, Now to go the youth pathway. This sacking is just convenient for them to change direction, and save some money over the 2 years. And put on a chirade that they have cleaned out the dead wood.

Excuses, for the bad decisions from Coach & Boards.

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So it's just the NY eve incident.

!!! You're kidding yourself ... there's talk of what happened on the China trip, regularly getting drunk, missed team meetings, getting thrown out of clubs etc. etc. And one would imagine that that's only the tip of the iceberg.

The guy has a number of serious problems, including alcohol (repeat offender and one imagines, is an alcoholic), gambling etc. You don't go into a therapy centre for 7 weeks (and counting) because you've had one too many on NY eve.

Moving on ...

Seems that Casey are interested in him. Wonder what MFC will have to say about it ...

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