I thought Tom McNamara was at training the other day, should he be on the list?

PERMISSION TO TRAIN LIST

Adelaide

Ian Callinan (Central Districts)

Brisbane Lions

Albert Proud (Brisbane Lions)

Broc McCauley (Brisbane Lions)

Carlton

Rhys O'Keeffe (Carlton)

Collingwood

Paul Cribbin (County Kildare, Ireland)

Essendon

Tyson Slattery (Essendon)

Fremantle

Ben Bucovaz (Fremantle)

Brock O'Brien (Fremantle)

Tim Ruffles (Fremantle)

Geelong

Nil

Gold Coast

Nathan Ablett (Geelong / Broadbeach)

Jake Crawford (Pamona)

Joel Tippett (Brisbane Lions / Southport)

Hawthorn

Matt Spangher (West Coast)

Travis Tuck (Hawthorn)

Melbourne

Nil

North Melbourne

Nil

Port Adelaide

Matthew Westhoff (Port Adelaide)

Nathan Daniel (Port Adelaide)

Tom Jonas (Port Adelaide)

Nick Liddle (South Adelaide)

Richmond

Ben Jakobi (Coburg)

Tom Hislop (Richmond)

Brad Miller (Melbourne)

St Kilda

Nil

Sydney Swans

Nil

West Coast

Tim Houlihan (West Coast)

Western Bulldogs

Nil

Do you need to permission to train with the club you've just been delisted from?

Do you need to permission to train with the club you've just been delisted from?

Yep

OK then, can we trust the source of the above list? And by that I mean, was it published in the Herald Sun?

Because Tom McNamara has been training with the rest of the group, so either someone forgot to lodge a form, or someone who wrote the list forgot to cross check it.

OK then, can we trust the source of the above list? And by that I mean, was it published in the Herald Sun?

Because Tom McNamara has been training with the rest of the group, so either someone forgot to lodge a form, or someone who wrote the list forgot to cross check it.

Good point!

No idea, its on the AFL website. Probably on the same level as the Herald Sun, so yeah, somebody forgot to cross check it most likely.

OK then, can we trust the source of the above list? And by that I mean, was it published in the Herald Sun?

Because Tom McNamara has been training with the rest of the group, so either someone forgot to lodge a form, or someone who wrote the list forgot to cross check it.

Or Tommy mac keeps sneaking Into training without being noticed

Never understood the need for permission to train. Surely it should just be to the discretion of the clubs who trains with them?

OK then, can we trust the source of the above list? And by that I mean, was it published in the Herald Sun?

Because Tom McNamara has been training with the rest of the group, so either someone forgot to lodge a form, or someone who wrote the list forgot to cross check it.

The Huns usual form,, an old photo

Never understood the need for permission to train. Surely it should just be to the discretion of the clubs who trains with them?

Might have something to do with insurance?

Yep

So - or therefore how do we get around this -as he has definately been training with us ?

So - or therefore how do we get around this -as he has definately been training with us ?

Might not be an issue with us but an omission from the list...nothing to be concerned about

Might have something to do with insurance?

I did wonder about that, but I just assumed that things like insurance are paid by the clubs, not the AFL. If that's the case then it comes back to it being at the discretion of the club and none of the AFL's business.

If the insurance premiums are paid by the AFL, then you're right, it makes complete sense.

I did wonder about that, but I just assumed that things like insurance are paid by the clubs, not the AFL. If that's the case then it comes back to it being at the discretion of the club and none of the AFL's business.

If the insurance premiums are paid by the AFL, then you're right, it makes complete sense.

Any player that is invited to train at this time of year is uncontracted. I am sure the premission to train is a way to protect the player's rights - perhaps officially through the AFLPA. Not just injuries but perhaps usual broader employment type considerations.

Odd that Tom McNamara is not on the list, but perhaps additions can be made over time. Suprised none of the Casey boys are having a run as well.

Forgot to mention: Source is the Herald Sun, but the same listed printed in The Age, afl.com.au

Edited November 10, 201014 yr by Gouga

Or Tommy mac keeps sneaking Into training without being noticed

... and is quite happy to pay his own medical bills ......

Wasnt Thorp training with us as well?

Wasnt Thorp training with us as well?

Last year.

I would imagine that after the National Draft we will have several other players training with us and hoping for a rookie spot.

Does anyone know anything about Ryan Murphy the Dockers discard? Physically he looks like a good option but never set the world on fire in the 5 or so years at Dockers (not the only one). Opinions?

Does anyone know anything about Ryan Murphy the Dockers discard? Physically he looks like a good option but never set the world on fire in the 5 or so years at Dockers (not the only one). Opinions?

kicked over 100 i think in the WAFL

... and is quite happy to pay his own medical bills ......

Just a theory, but ....

If a club has made a commitment to re-rookie a delisted player, do they still need permission? Did Newton train with us at this stage last year? Admitedly he was still contracted to us, but maybe the promise to re-rookie is the get out clause.

To give you an idea about the value of the PTT list, here is one from about this time in 2006 

Adelaide 

Brisbane Lions 

Timothy Brown, Geelong Falcons; Leonard Clark, Brisbane Lions Rookie; Scott Clouston, Morningside; Anthony Corrie, Brisbane Lions; Daniel Dzufer, Northern Eagles; Will Hamill, Brisbane Lions Rookie; Joel Tippett, Southport

Carlton 

Cain Ackland, St Kilda; Michael Jamison, North Ballarat; Tomi Johnston, Sandringham Dragons; Jake Williams, Calder Cannons; Ross Young, Northern Bullants; Ty Zantuck, Zillmere Eagles

Collingwood

 Martin Clarke, County Down Ireland; Scott Meyer, Williamstown; Liam Picken, Williamstown; Patrick Rose, Williamstown; David Stretton, Williamstown

Essendon 

James Bennett, Belconnen; Matthew Firman, Essendon; Ryan Gale, Claremont; Rennie Gilchrist, Sandringham; Ben Jolley, Essendon; Mitchell Keddell, Shepparton; Justin Maddern, Bendigo Bombers; Tim O’Keefe, Essendon 

Fremantle 

 Benet Copping, Fremantle; Dean Kelly, Oakleigh Chargers; Darren Rumble, Subiaco 

Geelong 

Tom Couch, Geelong Falcons; Adam Iacobucci, Collingwood; Tom Lonergan, Geelong; Joel Reynolds, Essendon 

Hawthorn 

Nathan Batsanis, Oakleigh Chargers; Luke Brennan, Hawthorn; Tristan Cartledge, 

Essendon

Joel Combes, Sandringham Dragons; Marcus Crook, Box Hill Hawks; Matthew Foster, Glenelg; Stefan Garrubba, Sydney Swans rookie; Sam Gibson, Box Hill Hawks; David Marcius, Box Hill Hawks; Tom Pollett, Box Hill Hawks; Myles Sewell, North Ballarat Rebels; Tim Sheringham, Geelong rookie; Will Slade, Geelong; Josh Thurgood, Hawthorn; Jonathon Wynne, Norwood 

Kangaroos 

Leigh Adams, Eastern Ranges; Ben Hughes, Gippsland Power; Tim Hutchison, Kangaroos; Sam Jacobs, Woodville West Torrens; Joel Perry, Kangaroos; Nick Smith, Oakleigh Chargers

Melbourne 

Andrew Ericksen, Sydney; David Fanning, Collingwood, Andrew Giafagna, Melbourne; Stefan Martin, Old Hailebury

Port Adelaide 

Dane Avery, Bendigo Pioneers; Nick Batchelor, Geelong; Adam Cockshell, Norwood; James Ezard, Port Adelaide; Jack Fosdike, Norwood; Brad Geddes, Woodville West Torrens; Matthew Graham, Glenelg; Gavin Grose, Mt Gravatt; Gavin Hughes, Norwood; Kyle Jenner, Port Magpies; Jack Juniper, Fremantle; Alex Lee, Dandenong; Brodie Lomas, Woodville West Torrens; Andrew McIntyre, North Adelaide; Harry Miller, Hawthorn; Adam Pepe Port Magpies; Tom Rischbieth, Port Adelaide; Hayden Skipworth, Adelaide; James Turner, South Adelaide; Josh Willoughby, Sydney Swans

Richmond 

Drew Barnes, Nathalia; Taz Clingan, North Ballarat Rebels, Nicholas Georgiadis, Western Jets; Shaun Huy, Coburg; Jak Kennedy-Hunt, Geelong Falcons; Jake King, Coburg; Kent Kingsley, Geelong; Dean Limbach, Richmond; Nick Lynch, McLeod

St Kilda 

Jayden Attard, Brisbane Lions; Cathal Corr, St Kilda; Chris Dunne, Casey Scorpions; Ben Fraser, Casey Scorpions; Ed McDonnell, St Kilda; Alister Neville, Coburg; Tom Roach, Richmond; Ben Ross, Gippsland Power; James Tyquin, St Bedes Mentone; Luke Van Rheenan, Scoresby

Sydney 

Matthew Davis, Sydney; Earl Shaw, Sydney 

West Coast 

Ben Sharp, West Perth; Brad Smith, Subiaco; Ashley Thornton, Peel Thunder; Beau Wilkes, Claremont 

Western Bulldogs 

James Allan, Werribee; Robert Castello, Werribee; Brett Robinson, Werribee; Matthew Seal, East Perth; Wayde Twomey, Werribee; Michael West, Western Bulldogs; Samuel Wormald, Werribee; Jarrod Young, Werribee.

Are there any outside players training with us?

By the Way WJ, I like the look of that last bloke who trained with us in 2006, from Old Hailebury.

New Permission to Train List (23/11/2010):

Adelaide - Ian Callinan (Central Districts)

Brisbane Lions – Albert Proud (Brisbane Lions), Broc McCauley (Brisbane Lions)

Carlton – Rhys O'Keeffe (Carlton)

Collingwood – Paul Cribbin (County Kildare, Ireland)

Essendon – Chris Molitor (West Adelaide), Jay Neagle (Essendon), Tyson Slattery (Essendon)

Fremantle - John Anthony (Collingwood), Ben Bucovaz (Fremantle), Justin Monaco (East Fremantle), Brock O'Brien (Fremantle), Tim Ruffles (Fremantle)

Geelong - nil

Gold Coast - Nathan Ablett (Geelong Cats / Broadbeach), Jake Crawford (Pamona), Joel Tippett (Brisbane Lions / Southport)

Hawthorn – Cameron Bruce (Melbourne), Travis Tuck (Hawthorn)

Melbourne – Corey Buchan (Dandenong Stingrays), Corey Cassidy (Oakleigh Chargers), Brad Harvey (Eastern Ranges), Paul Johnson (Melbourne), Cameron Johnston (Geelong Falcons), Alex McLeod (Calder Cannons), Tom McNamara (Melbourne)

North Melbourne – Matthew O’Dwyer (Sydney Swans)

Port Adelaide - Matthew Westhoff (Port Adelaide), Nathan Daniel (Port Adelaide), Tom Jonas (Port Adelaide), Nick Liddle (South Adelaide)

Richmond – Jayke Barrack (Coburg), Ben Clifton (Coburg), Andy Duhau (Coburg), Brendan Fewster (Coburg), Ben Jakobi (Coburg), Tom Hislop (Richmond), Bachar Houli (Essendon), Justin Kahlefedt (Coburg), Tom Lucin (Coburg), Brad Miller (Melbourne)

St Kilda – nil

Sydney – Eugene Krueger (East Coast Eagles), Garry Moss (Hawthorn)

West Coast - Tim Houlihan (West Coast), Blayne Wilson (Peel Thunder)

Western Bulldogs – Ed Barlow (Sydney Swans), Mitch Hahn (Western Bulldogs), Daniel Hughes (Melbourne)

Hmmmmm PJ...didn't think he would be rookied but looks like it's a possibility

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