In 2006 we were blaming the lack of training facilities regarding our injury woes. Whilst otherclubs at the same time or a little earlier were really having major issues such as soft tissue injuries- St Kilda, to name one, blamed the surface of the ground. Since going to Casey ,although our tanking was a major factor this last season ,we seem to get our fair share or more so, since going to Casey. As we read today,Wonaeamirri has done another hamstring,surely we must look into the causes of our soft tissue injuries. Maybe we need to analyse our football department further regarding our Doctors etc.. in this area,to prevent these injuries, especially reoccuring. We cannot afford to have issues similar to Joel Smith happen to our wonder players such as Watts, Scully, Trengove etc.. Need to do something & NOW.

Austin Wonaeamirri re-injuring his hamstring hardly calls for a wholesale review.

Austin Wonaeamirri re-injuring his hamstring hardly calls for a wholesale review.

I based my thread on Wona- and his continuous soft tissue and knee problems and furthrermore Rivers where it was reported in the Herald Sun yesterday, that this year is the first proper pre season for 5 years that he has beenable to do. Col.Sylvia had his first pre season last year ever.These are the reasons I think a review is needed.And whilst we are still half way through our pre season, thr timing is fitting.

Edited December 12, 200915 yr by jayceebee31

I based my thread on Wona- and his continuous soft tissue and knee problems and furthrermore Rivers where it was reported in the Herald Sun yesterday, that this year is the first proper pre season for 5 years that he has beenable to do. Col.Sylvia had his first pre season last year ever.These are the reasons I think a review is needed.And whilst we are still half way through our pre season, thr timing is fitting.

I thought most of our players were in good nick this year. This could be due to our resting players and the opportunity for early surgery. Injuries happen all the time at all clubs, sometimes players have a bad run. Col was a result of too much training for a young player. All the young players are now eased into modified training programs to counteract this.

Where's YM when you need him. I can se a rant about BB coming on!

Can I start it..?

That Bohdan Babiczuk is useless. If we had a decent... uh.. what does he do? Anyway, if we had someone else we'd have won at least one flag in the last 3 years, maybe even 2.

This is all completely his fault.

Continue.

Austin Wonaeamirri re-injuring his hamstring hardly calls for a wholesale review.

Another hammy. Is this the beginning of the end for Wonna? He missed all last year, can he afford another year?

Another hammy. Is this the beginning of the end for Wonna? He missed all last year, can he afford another year?

A year for a hammy..?

If you have it in mind that he missed all of last year with a hammy, then you've obviously forgotten it was mostly due to a meniscus tear in his knee.

Relax...

A year for a hammy..?

If you have it in mind that he missed all of last year with a hammy, then you've obviously forgotten it was mostly due to a meniscus tear in his knee.

Relax...

In the latest Melbourne FC DEC.2009 Edition mag-it states Bohdan Babijczuk as our High Performane coach- well I hope he can get them and keep them on the track.

In 2006 we were blaming the lack of training facilities regarding our injury woes. Whilst otherclubs at the same time or a little earlier were really having major issues such as soft tissue injuries- St Kilda, to name one, blamed the surface of the ground. Since going to Casey ,although our tanking was a major factor this last season ,we seem to get our fair share or more so, since going to Casey. As we read today,Wonaeamirri has done another hamstring,surely we must look into the causes of our soft tissue injuries. Maybe we need to analyse our football department further regarding our Doctors etc.. in this area,to prevent these injuries, especially reoccuring. We cannot afford to have issues similar to Joel Smith happen to our wonder players such as Watts, Scully, Trengove etc..  Need to do something & NOW.

On our injury problems, I've noted previously that our injury woes in recent times can be traced back to a game that we won comfortably against the Western Bulldogs in the latter part of the 2006 season. Up to that point of the season we were having a reasonable run with injuries but in that game we lost Aaron Davey and Byron Pickett who were both firing at the time, to hamstring injuries during the game. Travis Johnstone also strained his hammy and pulled out of the next game against lowly Carlton which we lost after a couple more players went down with injury during the course of the match (Cam Bruce was one from memory). That defeat probably cost us a top four place and we kept going downhill losing players on a weekly basis until we were knocked out of the finals by Freo. The injuries I remember from late in the season were Clint Bartram, Matthew Whelan and Mark Jamar.

The past three seasons have seen us continuing to endure a devastating injury rate but I don't think we can confine the injuries to a common cause, type or denominator. It's just happening and the injuries come randomly. 

It's disappointing that we have Wonna on the injured list already but most clubs have the odd injury worry at this time of year. There's no need for an inquiry just yet but if the injuries keep happening, I suppose it might not be a bad idea for someone independent to look at how we prepare our players.   

In the latest Melbourne FC DEC.2009 Edition mag-it states Bohdan Babijczuk as our High Performane coach- well I hope he can get them and keep them on the track.

i think if i remember correctly he was the bloke that got the arse from the hawks after a poor run with injuries. i'm certainly not convinced he is the best man for the job. his record is not good at all.

On our injury problems, I've noted previously that our injury woes in recent times can be traced back to a game that we won comfortably against the Western Bulldogs in the latter part of the 2006 season. Up to that point of the season we were having a reasonable run with injuries but in that game we lost Aaron Davey and Byron Pickett who were both firing at the time, to hamstring injuries during the game. Travis Johnstone also strained his hammy and pulled out of the next game against lowly Carlton which we lost after a couple more players went down with injury during the course of the match (Cam Bruce was one from memory). That defeat probably cost us a top four place and we kept going downhill losing players on a weekly basis until we were knocked out of the finals by Freo. The injuries I remember from late in the season were Clint Bartram, Matthew Whelan and Mark Jamar.

The past three seasons have seen us continuing to endure a devastating injury rate but I don't think we can confine the injuries to a common cause, type or denominator. It's just happening and the injuries come randomly. 

It's disappointing that we have Wonna on the injured list already but most clubs have the odd injury worry at this time of year. There's no need for an inquiry just yet but if the injuries keep happening, I suppose it might not be a bad idea for someone independent to look at how we prepare our players.   

I welcome your imput however never ever was the suggestion that an inquiry was needed. Like everything in life, a review is always required as an ongoing mamagement tool.One of factors in the review are the resources applicable-have we got the right ones and/ or do we need more. I was actually amazed when I read in the latest Melbourne F C mag- that we now have 10 personnel in our list /recruitment area whilst only 7 in our fitness , pre season staff .A review may show up that we might be satisfied with what we have got right now.Unfortunately we do not know how many of our players are injured or in rehab- but the papers report that Garland, Meeson, Strauss, Blease and now Wona are at least in this unfortunate situation. This is the reason I believe we should consider our position now- then realign after the Xmas break.

I respect your points to the effect of our problems in 2006 however it was Bomber Riley whom told me the guys bodies could not stand up to such a long year without the right conditions.(maybe that may include pre training.)

Edited December 13, 200915 yr by jayceebee31

my thoughts are, and maybe they are a long shot, but could the extra travel in a car out to Casey be a factor in all these soft tissue injuries?

I remember hearing an interview with Brock after he left the club and remember him saying the extra travel out to Casey was one factor to why he chose to leave, as it tightened his muscles sitting in the same position for up to an hour and a half

Dont you think that MFC undertake a full review of all aspects of the Club each year? Particularly given the past few years of injuries.

And as WJ said well, injuries occur for a variety of reasons. You are taking Riley's comments in a context that clearly weren't meant.

You are splitting hairs between the use of the words "inquiry" and "review"

i think if i remember correctly he was the bloke that got the arse from the hawks after a poor run with injuries. i'm certainly not convinced he is the best man for the job. his record is not good at all.

Nothing like making conclusions without the facts.

Can I start it..?

That Bohdan Babiczuk is useless. If we had a decent... uh.. what does he do? Anyway, if we had someone else we'd have won at least one flag in the last 3 years, maybe even 2.

This is all completely his fault.

Continue.

Pretty hard to win a flag from 16th i would've thought.

Pretty hard to win a flag from 16th i would've thought.

Really?

Read the post again.

Edited December 13, 200915 yr by Keyser Söze

I respect your points to the effect of our problems in 2006 however it was Bomber Riley whom told me the guys bodies could not stand up to such a long year without the right conditions.(maybe that may include pre training.)

Likewise I welcome your imput too but Reilly wasn't the senior coach in 2006 but in 2007 when we died at the end (but still beat Carlton in round 22).

my thoughts are, and maybe they are a long shot, but could the extra travel in a car out to Casey be a factor in all these soft tissue injuries?

I remember hearing an interview with Brock after he left the club and remember him saying the extra travel out to Casey was one factor to why he chose to leave, as it tightened his muscles sitting in the same position for up to an hour and a half

Who knows- however it maybe a factor to consider.Wonaeamirri was travelling from Braybrook this time last year virtually or slightly longer than Brock had to travel.

Edited December 13, 200915 yr by jayceebee31

Can I start it..?

That Bohdan Babiczuk is useless. If we had a decent... uh.. what does he do? Anyway, if we had someone else we'd have won at least one flag in the last 3 years, maybe even 2.

This is all completely his fault.

Continue.

I don't think even the Great Captain Jack Sparrow coaching us would have got the MFC to a flag in the last 3 years.

The Good players were coming to the end of there span, some played 12 months too long.

Footy is a brutal game and you cannot always protect against injury.

Look at Hawthorn in 2008, sure they won the flag and good luck to them, but the players paid a heavy price the next year.

its 2 weeks before xmas, i can handle a couple of hammy's now.

who was the crows player who did the knee last week-now that would be worse...

Dont you think that MFC undertake a full review of all aspects of the Club each year? Particularly given the past few years of injuries.

And as WJ said well, injuries occur for a variety of reasons. You are taking Riley's comments in a context that clearly weren't meant.

You are splitting hairs between the use of the words "inquiry" and "review"

Just for your knowledge - I'm bald.

However, furthermore, all I'm suggesting is the MFC look into the matter.An inquiry,to me, is a systematic investigation often as a matter of public interest .I do not any member /supporter of the MFC would want our opposition to learn from any investigation. A review is a reappraisal or evaluation.

To me, similar but different. One which could be done quickly and be able to move on during now and when the players resume in January 2010.

Hope this explanation meets with your approval,R.R.

Aussie will be back after some Christmas pork with apple sauce. And a few fireworks on New Years Eve, he will be back before you know it. Whenever there is an injury during pre season, there seems to always be some concern regarding training technique aspects/ schedule. Don't forget Aussie has missed quite alot, and had been training well of late. I am sure Aussie and staff would now be listening to his body a little more closely whilst pushing his body hard on the track. I wish him well in rehabilitation.

I don't think even the Great Captain Jack Sparrow coaching us would have got the MFC to a flag in the last 3 years.

The Good players were coming to the end of there span, some played 12 months too long.

Footy is a brutal game and you cannot always protect against injury.

Look at Hawthorn in 2008, sure they won the flag and good luck to them, but the players paid a heavy price the next year.

its 2 weeks before xmas, i can handle a couple of hammy's now.

who was the crows player who did the knee last week-now that would be worse...

uh... I was being facetious.

I think anyone who blames BB for the players' soft-tissue injuries, let alone for not winning a flag in the lat 3 years, is a complete and utter moron.

And that player was Andy Otten.

And yes, I wonder if anyone is stupid enough to call for Neil Craig's head after that...

uh... I was being facetious.

I think anyone who blames BB for the players' soft-tissue injuries, let alone for not winning a flag in the lat 3 years, is a complete and utter moron.

And that player was Andy Otten.

And yes, I wonder if anyone is stupid enough to call for Neil Craig's head after that...

I am glad we cleared that up, you usually write very inciteful posts on here so i was wandering where the logic came from!!

i hope i never have to live through an era like 2007-2009 ever again.

3 years of not once considering september....Hideous.

He was joking dude

Thanks mate. I should have read the other posts more carefully. I have deleted my post to avoid further embarrassment. I guess I'm too gullible. Happy Christmas!