Every time I watch Rivers play - he oozes class and leadership on the field. He puts his body on the line time and time again. He is not scared of sticking up for his mates physically nor is he scared of giving teamates advice. Is he a total different personality off the field? It is a given that he has missed a lot of games through injury - as an established player he is currently MFC most valuable player. Barring injuries - he will win the Bluey this year.

Every time I watch Rivers play - he oozes class and leadership on the field. He puts his body on the line time and time again. He is not scared of sticking up for his mates physically nor is he scared of giving teamates advice. Is he a total different personality off the field? It is a given that he has missed a lot of games through injury - as an established player he is currently MFC most valuable player. Barring injuries - he will win the Bluey this year.

completly agree, he's ahead of Brock imho

He's missed about 35 games in 2007 and 2008.

That's why.

Let him play a few games before saddling him up.

He's missed about 35 games in 2007 and 2008.

exactly...a bitter reality

good player and bloke, but you need to be on the ground enough to captain. So no for me at the moment.

Actually we dont have any stand outs. Thats sort of sad

He's missed about 35 games in 2007 and 2008.

That's why.

Let him play a few games before saddling him up.

And he has played 2 AFL games since.

Spot on rpfc

There is another often injured player who rocket into contention if he can remain healthy.

Brent Moloney is that man. You only have to read the articles on him on the MFC website last week to realise what the club means to him.

He is at a good age to takeover, he is already in the leadership group and has initiated the likes of the boxing camps and history of the MFC packs for the young players on our list.

All he needs now is to produce 20 more games this season of similar ilk to his first 2 this year, especially his first game.

Every time I watch Rivers play - he oozes class and leadership on the field. He puts his body on the line time and time again. He is not scared of sticking up for his mates physically nor is he scared of giving teamates advice. Is he a total different personality off the field? It is a given that he has missed a lot of games through injury - as an established player he is currently MFC most valuable player. Barring injuries - he will win the Bluey this year.

I agree, if he can get his body to be more reliable, we couldn't go past him.

I liked the way he ticked off the player not picking up his man.

There is another often injured player who rocket into contention if he can remain healthy.

Brent Moloney is that man. You only have to read the articles on him on the MFC website last week to realise what the club means to him.

He is at a good age to takeover, he is already in the leadership group and has initiated the likes of the boxing camps and history of the MFC packs for the young players on our list.

All he needs now is to produce 20 more games this season of similar ilk to his first 2 this year, especially his first game.

A lot of leadership can be displayed off the field - as Beamer has proven. I feel the way he has handled himslef through his setbacks - including being traded to MFC - have defined him as a role model - he has always tried to remain positive and explored methods to help develop the younger players and the MFC club in general. But I still feel on the field Rivers just seems to be the spiritual leader of the MFC. Don't forget MFC's rise up the ladder coincided with his recruitment and his outstanding display in our much maligned backline. From his early days he was a General.

I am just happy to see him out there right now. I am sure he is considered the captain of defence anyway. Who cares if he doesn't toss the coin.

Lets just enjoy his natural Talent for now & see if he can once again be a reguliar. Farken Hope so!

Actually thinking of our playing group. Green might have to be next in line. Then (after green) hopefully one of the younger players steps up and grabs this side, tucks it under his wing, puts his left hand out in front and pushes his way back to the top.

was told by somone close to the club he had little chance of becoming captain in the future ... but well see

I've heard a similar thing DJL

I've heard a similar thing DJL

Thats what I am getting at - there seems to be a black mark against Rivers in regards to a leadership role even prior to him getting injured - is he like the Ox - a leader on the field - troubled off it?

It doesn't seem to be a "troubled" thing buddy, just seems to be a "not-leadership" kind of guy - doesn't come across as a "captain" I suppose.

Has very poor body language. Watch him when we run off the ground at half time. He sulks round. Anyway he's still awesome

It doesn't seem to be a "troubled" thing buddy, just seems to be a "not-leadership" kind of guy - doesn't come across as a "captain" I suppose.

Precisely.

Not every good player is a good leader, and vice versa.

Rivers might be a good leader in the backline on gameday, but he might not be the type who can, or even wants to lead a team. That doesn't mean he is troubled, it just means he is not a natural leader and he doesn't aspire to learn how to be one.

Besides, you don't have to be given the title of leader in order to be one.

And he has played 2 AFL games since.

Spot on rpfc

if he stays fit he will be in the top 50 best in the league by the end of the year

He's missed about 35 games in 2007 and 2008.

That's why.

Let him play a few games before saddling him up.

Need to be on the field first, to be able to lead.

Precisely.

Not every good player is a good leader, and vice versa.

Rivers might be a good leader in the backline on gameday, but he might not be the type who can, or even wants to lead a team. That doesn't mean he is troubled, it just means he is not a natural leader and he doesn't aspire to learn how to be one.

Besides, you don't have to be given the title of leader in order to be one.

Very true. He's the captain of the back line anyway.

I've been led to believe that Rivers isn't as professional in some aspects around a football club as others, from being responsible and diligent enough in his own rehab to being actively involved in issues usually expected of a senior player.

Take that for what it's worth. Or don't.

Reading Emma Quayle's fascinating book "The Draft", of all players mentioned, one stood out as a real leader...Jack Grimes.

I'm not sure how long Jr.McDonald will remain at the club, but for me it's Green then maybe Moloney then possibly Grimes.

if he stays fit he will be in the top 50 best in the league by the end of the year

Agreed! Rivers when up and going is one of the best defenders in the comp. And I think he would be a good candidate for the captain but I think there will be a few others in the wings also. Be it Green, McLean or Moloney, or even further down the track Grimes or Watts? Think we will be well looked after in that department.

A lot of leadership can be displayed off the field - as Beamer has proven. I feel the way he has handled himslef through his setbacks - including being traded to MFC - have defined him as a role model - he has always tried to remain positive and explored methods to help develop the younger players and the MFC club in general. But I still feel on the field Rivers just seems to be the spiritual leader of the MFC. Don't forget MFC's rise up the ladder coincided with his recruitment and his outstanding display in our much maligned backline. From his early days he was a General.

Perhaps not the best choice of words?