DEMON SUMMIT 2008

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wow...casey is growing on average 124 population wise every week

Wow..where did you find that stat Nugget?

With respect to the players clapping after a win, don't they acknowledge the whole ground? Not just the mcc?

[casey scorp 2]

wow...casey is growing on average 124 population wise every week

Wow..where did you find that stat Nugget?

124 x 52 = 6448

In fact the 12 month's growth to June 30 2007 (latest available I think) was 6844. That = 132 people/week.

I don't know whether Nugget (or someone else) transposed the figures prior to doing a calculation, but it seems too co-incidental that the same digits are involved.

The 6844 is ABS stat for Casey's growth.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/Lo...;num=&view=

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124 x 52 = 6448

In fact the 12 month's growth to June 30 2007 (latest available I think) was 6844. That = 132 people/week.

I don't know whether Nugget (or someone else) transposed the figures prior to doing a calculation, but it seems too co-incidental that the same digits are involved.

The 6844 is ABS stat for Casey's growth.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/Lo...;num=&view=

They're staggering growth rates. Fair to say it would be a tradies paradise in that region. Many young families, alot of membership opportunities.

[casey scorp 2]

They're staggering growth rates. Fair to say it would be a tradies paradise in that region. Many young families, alot of membership opportunities.

Casey's current population is about 235,000. It will grow to 350,000 over the next 15-20 years if the Urban Growth Boundary stays in the same place. If it moves out further (and the govt has promised to keep 15 years supply of land within the UGB) then there will be even more growth.

That is the key to the success of the move to Casey.

As far as a tradies paradise is concerned, that's spot on. Not only does the growth drive significant employment in the building industry, but a heck of a lot of tradies live in Casey. They have money and kids!!

[Yencks 8]

Wow..where did you find that stat Nugget?

With respect to the players clapping after a win, don't they acknowledge the whole ground? Not just the mcc?

Question 1) http://www.casey.vic.gov.au/ and scroll down to the bottom

Question 2) they do to an extent, but they always finish at the MCC and stay there for a while, as well as all of the coaching staff and stuff...they definately pay the most attention to the members and i think (considering at the end of a game you can walk straight into gate 2 from outside the ground) they should free up the side area into the mcc

[_becks_ 35]

Here's another Einstein like idea, put the training times and dates on the website. They have no excuses now as training will be at Casey Fields, all we need are the dates (Which are on Casey's government site, with the time!) and the times!!

[casey scorp 2]

Here's another Einstein like idea, put the training times and dates on the website.

It shouldn’t need a summit – it shouldn’t even need a request.

It should be just standard practice you would think to put training details on the website.

[52k2 0]

To suggest that the MFC only invited MCC members to the summit is insulting to both the board and the chosen few [ME ]

I am not nor have I ever been a MCC member. I am a blue collar worker and have always been.

A normal member since 1987. Maybe I was picked because I wrote[ remember pen and paper] and hand delivered my ideas to the

club? Who knows? Who really cares, but the thing is in 20 years as a member I cant remember any other board doing anything

like this.

[Tigers Dayz 2]

What's your answer?

Below is the answer 45,

124 x 52 = 6448

In fact the 12 month's growth to June 30 2007 (latest available I think) was 6844. That = 132 people/week.

I don't know whether Nugget (or someone else) transposed the figures prior to doing a calculation, but it seems too co-incidental that the same digits are involved.

The 6844 is ABS stat for Casey's growth.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/Lo...;num=&view=

Casey's current population is about 235,000. It will grow to 350,000 over the next 15-20 years if the Urban Growth Boundary stays in the same place. If it moves out further (and the govt has promised to keep 15 years supply of land within the UGB) then there will be even more growth.

That is the key to the success of the move to Casey.

As far as a tradies paradise is concerned, that's spot on. Not only does the growth drive significant employment in the building industry, but a heck of a lot of tradies live in Casey. They have money and kids!!

....and of course..

To suggest that the MFC only invited MCC members to the summit is insulting to both the board and the chosen few [ME ]

I am not nor have I ever been a MCC member. I am a blue collar worker and have always been.

A normal member since 1987. Maybe I was picked because I wrote[ remember pen and paper] and hand delivered my ideas to the

club? Who knows? Who really cares, but the thing is in 20 years as a member I cant remember any other board doing anything

like this.

Wish there were more like you, 849dennisj..... also, what's pen and paper, and hand delivery?

[52k2 0]

Pen and paper- a much better way of conversing, this screen is killing me.

I dont know how many posts I have had here but I still dont know anybody!

If I wanted to be a typist I would at least shave my legs and trained to be one, its unnatural

to talk to other PEOPLE this way, and I have lously legs so the women at work tell me.[ I wear shorts

How do I recognise Demonlanders at this summit? Do we have a secret handshake or something?]

[45HG 1,539]

We're just Melbourne Supporters mate, does it matters if whoever you meet there is a Demonlander or not?

There's a fair bit of negativity going on here, for little reason that I can see.

Denis, I love you passion, but you can't complain that only MCC members were picked, then say you were picked even though you're not an MCC member. It's a contradiction. Obviously, then, not ONLY MCC members were picked.

Obviously we want as many supporters as we can, but I don't think having a negative attitude to other Dees supporters is helpful. If you see an elitist problem at the club, you need to specify examples, and specify solutions, otherwise it just sounds liek slander.

You can't say MCC members just want to maintain the "clique", then quote a solution to our problem as being expansion in Casey to which most of the "clique" are more than willing to support

[maximum bob 462]

I'm not going but posting the nearest pub/coffee house and meeting an hour before sounds like a good idea.

(Any earlier and the best ideas might get left at the bar).

I did this once with some old cricket mates I hadn't seen for twenty years before a Boxing day test and it worked a treat.

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

So you want the changerooms in the middle of the AFL members, rather than the MCC members?

I'd say, given that our club is trying to strengthen ties with the MCC, that it would be a very silly thing to move the changerooms now

as i said when the chips are down for the Dees the MCC are the first to go. lets ask the Power or the Eagles if we can use their changerooms next time we play interstate. fat chance. lets have our own changerooms and fill it with a bit of history. and if certain groups of supporters are put out because of it , well they are probably going to the ground for differant reasons than me

[Tigers Dayz 2]

We're just Melbourne Supporters mate, does it matters if whoever you meet there is a Demonlander or not?

There's a fair bit of negativity going on here, for little reason that I can see.

Denis, I love you passion, but you can't complain that only MCC members were picked, then say you were picked even though you're not an MCC member. It's a contradiction. Obviously, then, not ONLY MCC members were picked.

Obviously we want as many supporters as we can, but I don't think having a negative attitude to other Dees supporters is helpful. If you see an elitist problem at the club, you need to specify examples, and specify solutions, otherwise it just sounds liek slander.

You can't say MCC members just want to maintain the "clique", then quote a solution to our problem as being expansion in Casey to which most of the "clique" are more than willing to support

Indeed, we are all just supporters, and I love every one of you Demons. I'm not attempting to promote negativity here, just discussion.

I do not have any ready answers to the issues I raise, I am not slandering anyone, and believe it or not, I don't have a problem with MCC or MCC/MFC members.

I believe the Casey arrangement is the right way to go, but we should go further and tie ourselves into that community. We need to get Demons involved at grass roots level, auskick and schools. We need to invest in the demograhic. We can still do the MCC/MFC/MCG thing.

[45HG 1,539]

Fair enough mate, and it's exactly what we should be trying to achieve.

This forum is a perfect opportunity to brainstorm ideas to help the club, and in that way we are lucky to have such a collection of minds.

What are some specific ways we think we can attract supporters/link ourselves closely to the Casey region? The more ideas the better I feel

MFC vs. Casey Scorpions game, essentially a practice match where fans can meet players post match with proceeds going to charity/local hopstial

Sponsor a few Junior football teams, to get our logo on some youth jumpers (not sure if this can be done but it's just an idea)

Buy a pub, or something, in the area to congregate supporter bases. Trivia nights, casual nights, restaurant, I'm not sure the best way to run it but I'm sure the club could do it possitively. (Wouldn't even be a bad thing to run a normal pub with limited MFC visuals at all)

Obviously it's difficult to come up with ideas when you have no experience/inside knowledge, in individual areas. But I'm sure everyone here could come up with one idea at least that would be workable. For instance, would anyone here know if the club would be able to use Casey businesses for most of its daily needs (i.e. catering, electronics, physios), pick locals to run drinks to the players at training etc.

Probably useless ideas, but I'm sure we can build from here

[casey scorp 2]

I believe the Casey arrangement is the right way to go, but we should go further and tie ourselves into that community. We need to get Demons involved at grass roots level, auskick and schools. We need to invest in the demograhic. We can still do the MCC/MFC/MCG thing.

The plan already is to go further, right along the same lines you were thinking about. There was a heap of info about the community program to be delivered by MFC when the Council considered the matter on 5 August (first item on the agenda - you can find it through http://www.casey.vic.gov.au/meetings/artic...Item=11233#aug) including:

* Business Ambassadorship

* Melbourne FC in Schools

* family day at Casey Fields

* inviting locals down to training, with sausage sizzles etc

* Coach the Coaches/Ambassadors

* Demon’s Cup for local clubs & Curtain Raiser on the MCG

* Local Police/Community Service Training Days

* Involvement in articles in local papers

* employment of a Community Development Officer to oversee the community program

* seeking to have one or two NAB games at Casey Fields each year.

MFC are certainly planning to get right into a partnership with the community.

[Rogue 585]

So you want the changerooms in the middle of the AFL members, rather than the MCC members?

I'd say, given that our club is trying to strengthen ties with the MCC, that it would be a very silly thing to move the changerooms now

Why do you think it would be silly? The MCC owns the ground, not just the stand.

If it's with regards MCC members, I don't really understand why MCC members would care.

If you go to the rooms there's plenty of time to get back to your seat after you're booted out pre-match, and there'd be ample time to get down there after the final siren too.

If it's about the race the players use that seems pretty trivial - other members seem to manage okay without having the players run out next to them.

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How do I recognise Demonlanders at this summit? Do we have a secret handshake or something?

Ever seen the movie Sting with Paul Newman or Robert Redford? The right index finger to the nose.

There are also signals we use such as the signals in baseball with the Phillies. If you see three touches to the left shoulder and a right eye twitch, that means 45 hotgod needs to go and relieve himself...

Sorry 45hd...couldn't resist.

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JIM STYNES OPEN TO IDEAS - DEMON SUMMIT

P.S. Jimmy Stynes has implored those that have ideas to send them in, he WILL read them. "I can guarantee that" - J.Stynes

[LeBron James 41]

Michael O'Donnell.... isn't that mickrocks1??

[casey scorp 2]

Michael O'Donnell.... isn't that mickrocks1??

One participating Melbourne member, Michael O'Donnell, said he thought the club should encourage tourists and new citizens to go to games.

"Melbourne has to increase their supporter base," O'Donnell said.

"So I think every time there's a citizenship ceremony done by Melbourne City Council, Melbourne footy club should be giving out a five-game membership to new Australian citizens and maybe a scarf as well."

This is a good idea, and MFC is also in a position to establish something with the City of Casey.

If you want to see large numbers of new citizens you probably can't go past Casey. In 2006/07 Casey had about 2,300 residents conferred Australian citizenship.

[mikeod 21]

Michael O'Donnell.... isn't that mickrocks1??

Guilty...

[LeBron James 41]

Guilty...

LOL!

Good on ya mate!

How'd you manage that?

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Guilty...

Good on you Mick, good idea too.

edit: -

Having given more thought to it. Perhaps the "Melbourne" connection with the Melbourne City Council, would entice the Council to cover the cost of the memberships for new Australian Citizens, in support of the Mfc.

[mikeod 21]

LOL!

Good on ya mate!

How'd you manage that?

I actually suggested the story to Amelia, who is a friend of mine now working at the Hun, so she spoke to me about it.

And casey_scorp - I also think the system would be perfect for the City of Casey - that is how the club will start to get links to the community, and this is part of the community least likely to have a connection to an AFL club yet.