81

47

This could be bad

OR good

Depends if you want draft picks or wins

Getting flogged by a very mediocre team is NEVER, EVER a good thing. The damage it does to the psyche of a team/club is immense.

If we can at least share the last quarter, all will not be lost.

But I'm not hopeful. :angry:

We could lose this game by over 10 goals now. The radio just said it's a 75 point turn around since quarter time.

I'm embarrassed.

Getting flogged by a very mediocre team is NEVER, EVER a good thing. The damage it does to the psyche of a team/club is immense.

If we can at least share the last quarter, all will not be lost.

But I'm not hopeful. :angry:

Oh no! Our winning culture in tatters! The psychological apocalypse is upon us!

A crap day at the office and no real incentive to battle it out. I'm far from enamored with this performance but ultimately it will mean sod all.

Don't let anyone fool you. We are a dead-set chance to win less than 5 games next year, too.

I'll take a talented 18 year old over a pointless win at Subi that nobody will remember at the end of the year.

Still a disgraceful effort though.

I'll take a talented 18 year old over a pointless win at Subi that nobody will remember at the end of the year.

Still a disgraceful effort though.

Perfect summation of the day BBP........unfortunately !!!

Yeah i`m starting to think about a "Kill M. Riley" plan lol.. that win in rd 22 last year has robbed us..

This is only the third time this season that I feel utterly ashamed of our performance.

Apart from Miller who is working his arse off, our players are lazy and generally just don't care.

And how many goals can Wheatley cost us with his turnovers before somebody drags him off the ground?!!!

Not winning is one thing, playing like we are at the moment is completely unacceptable.

P.S.- awesome leadership from Bruce out there

'Jaded', why are you continually watching the boys arses all the time, there's a game on.? :D

'Jaded', why are you continually watching the boys arses all the time, there's a game on.? :D

well anyone that has read a handfull of her posts would know she doesnt watch the game

.........A crap day at the office and no real incentive to battle it out. I'm far from enamored with this performance but ultimately it will mean sod all.

What about pride, supporters, club, jumper, not to mention professionalism - these are supposedly professional sportsmen.

There is always an incentive to battle it out. Indeed, they are obliged to. It is demanded of them!

I want draft picks, but the way we're playing today no amount of early picks is going to help us.

Draft picks don't make you accountable for your man, don't enable you to hit targets, and sure as hell doesn't make you play with more desire.

Actually, they do.

When you think about it, More talent at the club forcing players to achieve, to hold their place is a grerat incentive.

well anyone that has read a handfull of her posts would know she doesnt watch the game

Mind you, if Bev O'connor & her friends had a game of footy wearing the red'n'blue,,,,, I'd have trouble concentrating on the ball...

An absolutely dreadful match. We still have to play North, Essendon, Geelong, West Coast, Port and Richmond. I reckon we can still win about 4 of them so it was good we lost today for draft picks.

What about pride, supporters, club, jumper, not to mention professionalism - these are supposedly professional sportsmen.

There is always an incentive to battle it out.

Enough with the cliches mate. Its bad enough that the players and coaches dish up the same old [censored] each week without the supporters doing the same. If this loss hurts you, I suggest therapy and/or Vallium. It doesn't require 'out of the box' thinking to see how this is totally inconsequential.

An absolutely dreadful match. We still have to play North, Essendon, Geelong, West Coast, Port and Richmond. I reckon we can still win about 4 of them so it was good we lost today for draft picks.

You have got to be kidding. We might get an arm wrestle with WCE but we are a few rungs below the others.

Overall the result is one thing, the lack of effort for 3 quarters was concerning. A few blokes pushed themselves closer to the door at Year end.

well anyone that has read a handfull of her posts would know she doesnt watch the game

Well I never notice your posts, so I guess we're even

Losing at this stage of the year is a positive, getting smashed by Freo after beating them in the first quarter, is not.

I'm much more worried about the effort than the result.

Edit: beat me to it by *this* much Rhino :D

An absolutely dreadful match. We still have to play North, Essendon, Geelong, West Coast, Port and Richmond. I reckon we can still win about 4 of them so it was good we lost today for draft picks.

2 at best - dons and tiges. wc will [censored] us over there.

Enough with the cliches mate. Its bad enough that the players and coaches dish up the same old [censored] each week without the supporters doing the same. If this loss hurts you, I suggest therapy and/or Vallium. It doesn't require 'out of the box' thinking to see how this is totally inconsequential.

The loss doesn't hurt me, the pathetic effort for 3 quarters concerns me as it should all supporters. Check the other posts on the end of this topic mate; your the one out of touch. (Oh, and my preferred drug as alcohol, which I will now give a nudge.)

The loss doesn't hurt me, the pathetic effort for 3 quarters concerns me as it should all supporters. Check the other posts on the end of this topic mate; your the one out of touch. (Oh, and my preferred drug as alcohol, which I will now give a nudge.)

I just thought you and a couple of others were overreacting to be honest. Crap effort I agree but its hardly likely to have any sort of lasting effect. We have a young, young team and stuff all leadership to turn them around when they lose their way, especially with Green out of the side. Its hardly unexpected that they don't play 4 quarters every week. That will come as they mature, and take more responsibility.

The loss doesn't hurt me, the pathetic effort for 3 quarters concerns me as it should all supporters. Check the other posts on the end of this topic mate; your the one out of touch. (Oh, and my preferred drug as alcohol, which I will now give a nudge.)

I just thought you and a couple of others were overreacting to be honest. Crap effort I agree but its hardly likely to have any sort of lasting effect. We have a young, young team and stuff all leadership to turn them around when they lose their way, especially with Green out of the side. Its hardly unexpected that they don't play 4 quarters every week. That will come as they mature, and take more responsibility.

It is funny as we all know we are playing terrible footy but we at least want to see some light at the end of the tunnel. One week we can see something, then next we realise it is not light is a pile excrement we wander by down this tunnel.

It seems one step forward and two back, we need to see progression and the first qtr seemed like a good progression, the last 3 qtrs were steps backwards. It is frustrating to say the least

Anyone give a report on Robbie Warnock???? If he is to be considered in PSD, if he is interested, did he outplay Jamar???

Warnock had 13 disposals and 13 hitouts, but was barely noticed. He won't be the 'saviour' in the ruck if we do somehow manage to snaffle him in the pre-season draft.

In comparison Jamar had 14 disposals/14 hitouts, Johnson 15d/7HO and big Sandilands had 15/23HO's. I would say there was no clear winner in the big-man stakes today, Jamar was certainly more than serviceable again today, his improvements are tending to be more baby steps than quantum leaps, but he's getting there..

Oh, and all 3 of Sandilands, Jamar and Johnson kicked 1.0, although Sandilands did hit one out on the full as well...

Warnock had 13 disposals and 13 hitouts, but was barely noticed. He won't be the 'saviour' in the ruck if we do somehow manage to snaffle him in the pre-season draft.

In comparison Jamar had 14 disposals/14 hitouts, Johnson 15d/7HO and big Sandilands had 15/23HO's. I would say there was no clear winner in the big-man stakes today, Jamar was certainly more than serviceable again today, his improvements are tending to be more baby steps than quantum leaps, but he's getting there..

Oh, and all 3 of Sandilands, Jamar and Johnson kicked 1.0, although Sandilands did hit one out on the full as well...

getting beaten by 46 pts is one thing.... but the turn around of 80 pts is SHOCKING !!!!! :angry: :angry:

West Coast 16 2 14 0.... 64.7..... 8

Melbourne.. 16 2 14 0.... 64.3.... 8

what a perfect result....phew...that was close ...lol

Warnock had 13 disposals and 13 hitouts, but was barely noticed. He won't be the 'saviour' in the ruck if we do somehow manage to snaffle him in the pre-season draft.

In comparison Jamar had 14 disposals/14 hitouts, Johnson 15d/7HO and big Sandilands had 15/23HO's. I would say there was no clear winner in the big-man stakes today, Jamar was certainly more than serviceable again today, his improvements are tending to be more baby steps than quantum leaps, but he's getting there..

Oh, and all 3 of Sandilands, Jamar and Johnson kicked 1.0, although Sandilands did hit one out on the full as well...

Cheers DD

Jamar's stats would almost be a career high.......

It seems to me that so many posters are over-reacting. Before the game I thought we would lose by about 40 points and it was only marginally worse than that. Sure, it would have been better if the effort in the second and third quarters was better and if the turnovers were less but these things happen with a young side.

We had a very, very young list and we were playing at Subiaco where a 46 point loss is no worse than normal. Don't forget that Freo are still a capable side with much more experience than the list we had out there. They have also gone very close to some top sides at Subiaco (including Geelong).

The upside for us is that we have bottomed and are on the way back whereas, in my opinion, they are still on the way down with a list comprised of several older players, some mediocre players that have been around for a few years and only a couple of good youngsters.

Don't be despondent you lot - we will put in a good performance in the next week or so (hopefully next week) and the optimism will be back.