spirit of norm smith

What wins Grand Finals put your head over the footy tough play and discipline tackle like you mean to lock it in smart forwards kick goals effective disposal critical need multiple star midfielders lucky bounces

??? Clayton Oliver ??? Surely Jayden Hunt should have been in the sprint. Go bulldogs

Agreed with the thinking... but logic and fairness don't seem on the AFL agenda. Forgot to mention that Jacob Weitering would have been our draft zone pick in 2015!!

With the Swans having Mills and Heeney in their GF team and being two definite rising stars, can we again question the uneven playing field. The Swans got the extra living allowance of 10% to "retain players" which then allowed them to recruit Tippett and Franklin. Now the Academy for the Swans and Giants offers them access to the best talent as long as they match the bid. WTF!! Jacob Hopper is another rising star for the Giants and will be a star of the comp by 2018. How do they get such a bonus above and beyond salary cap concessions (albeit these are being dialled back). If the AFL truly wanted to even the competition, let Melbourne FC nominate players from the Dandenong Stingrays for the draft and then be able to match a bid. Josh Battle is a definite top 8-10 draft selection and would be ideal as a big bodied key forward with a thirst for a contest (plays like Jake Stringer). But no, MFC could not get such access via a bid match process. I wonder how long it is before the system is again questioned as currently it will allow the Swans and Giants to stay strong or indeed get stronger despite being at the top of the ladder.

Matt Jones was on the edge after 2015 and had to keep fit and fire in 2016. It did not happen. He had pace but ultimately his disposal, decision making and tackling were lacking. Thanks for your service but we move on.

Great news. Still underrated and strangely maligned by some on Demonland. He is an essential player as we push into the top 8 bracket. Good to see him at the Brownlow. He is the classy type that compliments Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jones & Petracca.

come on Jesse. lock in to 2021. 4 year extension for $3million. Dees will have a premiership by 2021.

Use 2017 2nd round on Motlop ... pick 40 ish !!!

Lamb is hugely talented but his work ethic is not up to standard. Only consider as a delisted free agent or draft pick 81.

now... Dawes - trade / delist either Dunn or Garland - trade / retain Newton - delist JKH - trade / retain Michie (rookie) - delist Max King (rookie) - delist Wagner and White to stay on rookie list. Aim for Hibberd, 1-2 DFAs and maximum (minimum) of 3 draft picks.

Good NEAFL player but lacks size or speed or skills. Gets the footy and bangs it forward. Not many other midfielders taking his votes away. Not recommended.

Hoskin-Elliott... NO NO NO

Yes this proves there is no loyalty or justice. I thought Jack Grimes may have been given one more year or be given a chance to be traded away for a late draft choice. It is sad to see him delisted after such a promising start to his career. His disposal was just lacking and not up to the faster pace that is required in todays AFL.

Matt Jones has run and spread but his kicking is poor over 25 metres and he misses too many tackles (like Howe). At 29 he is not getting any better. Very good VFL player.

Demons 71 votes... shows the improvement Dangerfield is a champion player and champion bloke

Brandon Parfitt ... available at 43?? surely not.. I rate this kid from NT with his evasion and pace the equal of a Wells or Burgoyne. Hope he lasts for the Dees to snap up.

agree... ANB will be a player. Give him another 12 months development.

Both Weideman and Hulett did as required and as expected in 2016. Young key forwards take time ... and we will still only expect 5-6 games for MFC in 2017. MFC must prepare in case Jesse walks (hoping Hogan stays of course).

offer the kid a 3 year deal at $250,000 a year. He smashed us.

agree... Gone - Dawes Terlich M.Jones Newton Grimes Garland (trade) Spencer (trade) Michie(r) Max King (r) ins ... Hibberd & Melksham... more pace & heart.

Spencer - please get rid of him ... pathetic. Go to Freo. Get me Hannath in exchange. Garland - trade to the Lions. Keep Dunn. Matt Jones, Terlich, Michie, Newton & Grimes are all gone. Bring in Barlow as a DFA. Get me more pace and skill.

2017 draft pool looks strong. I would prefer one top talent (pick 11-12) then two late 20s picks.

I was a big fan of Towers in 2012 and was disappointed that we could not get him onboard. I think the Dees should try to grab Dean Towers now. He has been squeezed out from Sydneys best 22. Yet everytime I see him play, his pace and ballwinning is a standout. Very good overhead mark. I think he would compliment our hard inside mids. Offer a 3 year deal and he might be a prize. Swans will have some serious salary cap pressure.

If he is available around pick 50+, he would be a very handy pickup.

Possible last rookie spot if either Dunn or Garland go. Prefer Declan Kielty ahead of him.