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A little blurry but shrinked may be ok. Unfortunately he's not in action but this is the best I could find. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mentonemif/7083712159/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Does anyone have the link to the podcast? What time was it. Thanks for the info Lace Out.

Yeah I think considering the amount of picks GWS's had in the first round they overpaid for whom they got (exc. Whitfield). I won't argue against O'Rourke or Plowman but as rated all year I think Toumpas was ahead of O'Rourke and Plowman would of went between 6-10 (of the official AFL 2012 Draft), they obviously got him due to their need for another full back defender. Btw, nice thread.

Sorry Murphy yes was incorrect but Cotchin no. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=12&pid1=3315&tid2=15&pid2=2302&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=P&fopt2=2010 Even compare his third season with Dale Thomas. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=12&pid1=3315&tid2=5&pid2=1608&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=P&fopt2=2009 What's even more interesting is his figures regressed in his first year with Neeld and as co-captain in comparison to his second season. My point being these players ofter have their break out year, and I hope Trengove's will be 2013. Some are quicker like Pendlebury, but so far Trengove is on par.

It's a fantastic result to remain in the positives and have an increase of ~$1.6 mil spending in the footy department in relations to all the off field issues and the loss of a major sponsor. I would love to see what the club starts turning when they rise up the ladder and all the supporters in the wood work jump back on the band wagon and buy memberships. WELL DONE MFC!

Quite frankly I get sick and tired of seeing people have a crack at the likes of Trengove or Watts saying that they are under performing, the same will happen to Toumpas and/ or Viney. In retrospect I think Trengove has been developing nicely. He has been averaging close to 20 disposals, and > 4.5 tackles over his last few seasons. Now compare this to the likes of Trent Cotchin or Marc Murphy they had very similar figures at the same age. Hopefully 2013 will be Trengove's break out year and if so we should see him averaging closer to 25 disposals and hopefully by 2015 closer to 30 which is reflective of these other "star" draft picks. With this said I don't expect Toumpas and Viney next year to come out and be "the saviors" of the MFC, I will be please if I see touches of brilliance and they average close to 20 disposals with a nice amount of tackling pressure ~3.5 or above by the end of next season.

As said in the industry: "You can make anyone look like a superstar with a 2 min highlight reel". With that said, YES I think he looks good, YES he is a fantastic pick up at 48, but NO he is not a star nor is Toumpas or Viney. At this point we are dealing with nothing more than potential - "potential to be a star", and potential doesn't always translate at the AFL level (e.g Morton). Emotions aside, it's too early to call based on a highlight video.

Well I'll go against the grain and say YEP I'd take him. Although, only on the basis that he is the best player to suit Neeld's mantra, and if he has got things together then he is worthy of a second chance with one year in the rookies. In relation to was he any good? He was nothing fabulous before he was dropped but like the rest of the Tuck family they were late developers. His brother at Richmond is a gun and if he has shown excellent form at the Werribee Tigers and could turn out like his brother or Dad, that would please me. Thanks for the article stuie good food for thought.

Well it's kind of obvious this has been going on for quite some time. Speaking to a friend on the inside he said the amount of cocaine residue in the toilets at the Brownlow would astonish most people, although I guess it's no different to a fancy bar on Chapel St. Although put it this way, you have young men with more dollars than sense that wants to get some for of high like that of a few too many beers, a player can take a certain elicit drug and be on water all night, he wont get the bloating or the same detrimental effects of hangover like that of beer. Obviously that [censored] is no good for you, but from a recovery perspective its far superior in order to get back to the training track. Why do you think so many players go to Vegas on end of season trips... as Dane Swan would say "shows". Unfortunately its sad reality to football and I hope clubs implement often drug testing and programs to eradicate the problem.

Is it official? Are they picking him up in the PSD?

May I just say I am just as excited about this kid as I am with Jimmy Toumpas. Strange I know, it's probably the unknown factor about him. I like his style of play and the concept of the large amount of travel he had to do. I like how he missed out on the WA state team due to a travel bug and wondering if he made that side would he of got to us at pick 48... I doubt it. I am also curious how he will develop in a full time professional environment, on the basis that Toumpas and Viney develop as predicted I hope this guy pulls a Tom McDonald, Tom Rockliff (initially rookie) or Dane Swan and come out of no where as a late draft pick. I have sat on these thoughts for a couple days now, trying to take any emotions out of it and think of it from a logical perspective, and YES I think he is a fantastic selection in regards to where we got him.

I thought this article was interesting, although I think Port are well and truly on their way down and may very well end up below GC and/or GWS in 2013 due to the losses of certain leadership like Rodan and Chaplin, and players like Pearce and McCarthy (no disrespect, R.I.P), new coach with a new game plan, low supporter base, I think Wine's first two years in the AFL will not be pleasant. With that said, I hope he hates it over there and his mates like Viney and Toumpas can persuade him to get back home and join the Dees. I guess time will tell, and good on his positive attitude.

Thought about it a little bit more today and after reading Swampfox's post regarding a pick up of a 200 cm ruckman, they may very well select Hannath if he trains well (of course), but the second selection may very well be Ben Warren after hearing all that chatter during trade week.

Mate! DELETE this thread your ruining my chances (^^,)

VOTED OTHER: I believe the club will continue with the selection of mature aged talent. Ben Ross (24 yo, 179 cm, current weight unknown), 2012 J.J. Liston Trophy recipient. If they choose another younger bottom aged player I would be happy with Sam Colquhoun or Anthony Bonaddio. Personally I don't have time for Dayle Garlett, the interview below alone puts me right off.

Initially I was very shattered upon hearing the Gysberts trade. Although I wanted Pedersen at the time, I thought we overpaid. Since then I got speaking to a certain friend on the inside who currently works for another club, yet use to work in one of Neelds old organisations, knowing him personally. At the start of trade week they got speaking, Neeld informed him that Gysberts was most likely going to be traded and bluntly said because "he is a soft c*** (another name for a rooster)" who crumbled under pressure (from Neeld & co.), who didn't take kindly to critsism and didn't believe his game needed improvment where they pointed it out. Upon hearing this my views have changed, I still believe Gysberts is a good player with plenty of "potential", although "potential" can only take a player so far and doesn't always translate into consistant onfield talent. I'm glad Neeld & co. are taking this hard nosed appraoch and hopefully Pedersen can step up a massive notch this year. Let's just say I'm not exactly dissapointed by the trade anymore.

Can't think of anyone better, an MFC supporter growing up, a responsible young man, I'm glad to see it go to someone that truly deserves it. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/dee%20tv/tabid/8667/default.aspx#playvideo#playvideo

Nice find, lets hope he can sneak through and the recruiting department is onto it.

Also Wines has previously run a 2.98 in the 20 m via the AIS.

If Tom Temay gets there I would be happy to land him, other than that I hope the Dees get in early to land Ben Ross (VFL). We already have too many youngsters on the list.

Haha don't make me laugh, and thank you for the kind inbox message.

Ease up keyboard warrior, your at it again. Leave that up to the mods to decide.

I'll be honest, I don't know much about him. All I know is he was initially sacked the morning of the Geelong thrashing and he had some form of conflict with the old football department. I don't know the ins and outs, I don't know what his views were on this so called tanking debacle, but all I can say is I love his passion he shows for the club and I like what he has done in relation to the new club sponsors and facilities at AMMI park.

LOL nice!

I agree, I wouldn't be too disappointed if it occurred in the 2013 draft (end of next year), but I would be horrified if it occurred in this years draft. I can see a huge up side to having the likes of Viney and Wines in the same team, I would love to see them train hard together, push one another, influence others, and win the contested footy for the next decade together. Whereas 2014 we will have Hogan come through and the core list should be getting closer to their prime football age (24-26). Of course I don't want any picks taken, but if it does happen I hope it makes or helps the club develop that winning culture we keep hearing of. Who knows they may even get good at player recycling.