Diamond_Jim

he also took possession of the ball on many occasions and dealt with it in a manner that benefitted his team. Have always wondered why Gawn does not do the same as an occasional tactic.

As have Port, Lions and Pies (measured from 2017) and maybe even GCS.

You have to admire Collingwood. When they do something they do it BIG. Sidebottom and now Buckley ?

Alicia Molik... They are in Perth remember for those suggesting Nick K (lives in the ACT)

Interesting analogy Most could see very little from the trenches despite their unquestionable loyalty and bravery. (Did you know that the outbreak of WW1 can be traced back to Waterloo? Irrelevant but fascinating.)

No I'm looking for the medium term This year is a write off. The Geelong loss killed any momentum. The Brisbane and Port losses merely confirmed it. A win against North and Adelaide will merely paper the cracks. Mindlessly swimming against the current is what the last how many years has been. The current gameplan is continual "mediocrity" as you term it if not worse. Break the Wheel ! (seriously though... Goodwin has to re -invent this team and the sooner we accept it the better. The alternative is a new coach and another questionable rebuild.)

Puts paid to the hard to come up after such a tough game in the wet/damp theory. Would like to play Essendon after their Darwin game... Alice perhaps

A poster last evening said that he was told by Gabba attendants that the home team decided attendance limits. I expect we have to pay the stadium and if you can't sell the tickets for what ends up being excess security etc.. bad luck

That got us nowhere in the second half of 2019. Need to plan for 2021. If it gets you a win .. great. Would you play Corey/Josh Wagner for example in place of Jetta rather than one of the 2018 draftees. Same goes for playing Hunt. No one's saying throw the positions around for the sake of it. We are committed to Tomlinson and Langdon. Time to play them and see if we can model a strategy around them. Playing the best team by default means in the short term following the gameplan that has got us nowhere for the last 3-4 years. As the Dragon Queen used to say....Time to break the wheel...

rumoured to be on a salary of over $1M so maybe not... but I like your thinking

This has been spun beautifully by the AFL...the offenders were confused and club admin could have done a better job explaining the rules.

Agree... a priority is to see if we can cover Jetta. Those who will be moved on are a little easier..the Wagners, Neitschke, KK (needs to be paid out), Bradtke and maybe Hunt.

Good analysis but in the absence of a break clause unlikely. You may recall that Goodwin's contract was delayed and I suspect he was making sure it had reasonable security. Good on him. If we terminate him early we have to compensate him for the base plus the chance of the bonuses. Measuring the loss of a chance is difficult but it is commonly done in legal proceedings. There's always the Scott outcome where it was said that he walked from North on the understanding of a full payout less what he got should he take up a coaching position with another club. As it turned out he didn't get another job so I assume he got the full payout. Combine that with the fact that Shaw would have come cheap at least in his initial years and you understand how North were able to afford it. Clarkson on the other hand would not come cheap.

Ah ...optimism. Were you a Collingwood supporter in a previous life

Realistically we will win between 2 and 5. At least winning five gives us some satisfaction re trading our first Round pick. Just saw that Norf have put the cue in the rack by dropping Polec and Brown. It's your anything else that interests me....

For the ever optimistic the season may still be alive but for realists it finished against Brisbane and definitely against Port. The pity of course is that like last year it comes so early in a year when we are desperate for diversion. Normally my mind would now turn to a second team which in recent years has been GWS but they seem to have lost that flair. So what can we salvage out of this mess so the club goes into 2021 with some impetus. For me it's the development of Weideman and Fritsch along with our crop from the 2019 draft. Not much faith in Smith but I'm prepared to see if he has a spot..... probably in the backline. Happy to rest Gawn if that improves his longevity. Plenty of options for relief ruck. And of course for the sake of our sanity and Goodwin's well being some variation in our style of play from time to time. Any other suggestions?

Yep... we are the go anywhere team if you'll pay us.. Perhaps we can get a slice of the Cairns money as well Unfortunately it's been that way for a very long time

If you accept the figures we have 8 players in the top 100. On a simple distribution between clubs it should be no more than 6. Not sure what you can read into that but I expect we are overpaying some.

The song is a jingoistic US tune that needs changing but it won't help us win.

why..he's a fourth ranked mid fielder in a bottom four club with an injury cloud Sure someone will take him just like they took Jack Watts but first round????

Brayshaw would get you a mid second round and we might need to pay part of his salary. Because of the formula Viney may get us more but I think it would alienate many supporters. No easy fix

Pretty well everyone gives Goodwin a coaching lesson

Wines bringing back Toumpas memories

Ahhh Westhoff ?

Source please