Sydee

Apologies if it’s been discussed previously but what are the concerns expressed or implied by Trac about Oliver’s treatment in 2023?

Seems to me we are going to see (or should I say) should see quite a few leave the list If that happens can we afford to do any bundling of picks when we may need to do a major restock of talent? Not opposed to the idea but how to we fill our 44 list spots if we have limited draft picks ? I’m not seeing too many if any decent OOC players floating around that would improve our list

He doesn’t hate the job though The people who work there - who knows I’m sure there are some that are frustrating but I’d be shocked if he could walk into another AFL club and not find DHs and huge egos it goes with the territory I’m happy to take his grievances on face value that some things needed to change (we all agree on that) - if they do I can’t see why he wouldn’t be happy to see out what is a very lucrative contract If he still sees the grass greener somewhere else in a year or two I’m resigned to the fact he may PO but I want us to work that trade to our best advantage and preferably not to Collingwood or Carlton

Not any worse than McAdam ? Hardly a great sales pitch

He is a good footballer but not sure that highlights package translates to AFL level tbh Lots of dinky kicks and handballs over his head (granted many do hit the target) - personally I still think Langford is a better option if he is still an option at our first pick Reid looks more like a slightly faster version of Spargo to me

I can understand your disappointment as I share it but tbh I think this is a bit unfair You make it sound like the team fell off a cliff after winning the flag in 2021. The reality is it won more games than any other team in 2022 and 2023 I think. Yes we lost the 4 finals but while incredibly disappointing there were some reasons. Some inaccurate kicking (all teams are guilty of this some days) and key injuries. This year was always going to be tough with losing Gus and JS before a ball was even bounced. Then to have more key players go down we were always facing an uphill battle. The reality is a few breaks go our way and top 4 could have still been possible. It is a very very even comp these days and if teams are a little bit off their game or have key injuries it has a huge impact on results. I think it’s possible for this team to bounce back into finals next year so long as we have a fully fit Trac and Oliver. Big ifs I know they will be critical to our chances. We must draft in good ball users and I hope Langford is available as he looks exactly what we need. Some smart trading would also help set us up for solid season (this has obviously been a weakness in the past couple of years with some highly questionable decisions). We need to find a solid back up for Max and some additional mid field depth. Anyone who bothered to watch Casey this season would appreciate how thin we are in the midfield. I’m still trying to remain glass half full - if the train doesn’t get back on the tracks and show signs of improvement early next season I’ll start to have my doubts then.

Maybe he was wanting a firm commitment from the club to implement some changes rather than just lip service before he said he was staying (that would make sense to me) What doesn’t make sense is for this statement of commitment to be made now when we are still weeks away from the trade period

Why not the victim card seems useful these days for garnering support and followers on social media

Casey were pretty poor all year and most games the ball was parked in their D50 for the majority of the game The fact he rarely if ever got into double figures in the possession count is pretty damming imo Hopefully he has a big pre season and builds some strength and confidence because both seem to be lacking at this stage

Well deserved Max - a tower of strength (literally) for this great club The thing that opposition supporters seem to forget is that all teams try to physically beat Max up every game with borderline legal tactics. The great man just keeps going about his business without complaining or whining. The best ruck in the competition by some margin and his 7th AA says it all

What’s its say I’m not paying for their trash 😂

Seems like only yesterday Dan Houston was leaving port but the media seem to have got that very wrong - does happen regularly

Could be wrong but my interpretation of Tacs silence is that he has some genuine concerns of which some it seems are shared by the club captain (not all though) He is waiting for them to either take some meaningful action to address these issues If they don’t perhaps he will than publicly state he wants to be traded and then I suspect we will be told the nature of his grievances I don’t agree with his tactics if this is true but the fact that Max also seems to think changes need to be made says to me that something needs to be addressed and quickly

Nope

Personally I just don’t need any more reasons to absolutely hate Collingwood but here we are yet another one

The way we are travelling atm our F1 will be pick 1 so its a no from me

If all these rumours are true my question would be is there a head big enough ?

So absolutely no F50 pressure then - feels like a good way to start the season - sorry but I’m just a bit jaded by the AFL and certain events atm

Congrats to Jesse still a favourite as is Toby Will be there supporting them against the swans in their first final

Well I’ll give them credit for not stooping that low

Its not

Say what 🙀 Not a fan of either but Craig Foster and Peter Fitzsimmons seem to do ok out of daily dribble

You may be right and I hope for his sake and the clubs he starts to blossom next season.

Tend to agree with this - we have struggled to recruit a genuine tall forward that can compete and score goals consistently - and nothing has changed unfortunately. We have tried to recycle tall defenders with some success, but I think most believe that is not the solution longer term. Fritta is one of the competitions best forwards when the forward 50 has space and the delivery into him is good. Our game style seems dependent on crowding the field including the forward 50 and our midfielders are some of the worst kicks in the competition. For him to get back to his we need to tweak our F50 structure and get some players capable of delivering the ball fast and with precision.

If you compare him to Nate Caddy who has spent 1 year less in the AFL system you would be concerned. Caddy already shows great potential in the AFL. Too early to call bust but would need to show way more next season