Sydee

Well, it's about time that changed then isn't it. How many Ruckman have been coaches in that period and failed? How many non Ruckman have coached in that period and failed? Let's try and remain glass half full until we see how things play out

I wish him well and at this stage this seems like a sensible appointment He has a very good CV and has worked closely with some good senior coaches. he is currently in charge of GFC midfield who seem to go ok. I'm not having a pot at Goody but having watched a few of King's past interviews he appears to be pretty capable at handling the media and answering questions clearly. Time will tell if this puts us back in the race but I'm feeling more confident in our chances next season having made this change than if we had done nothing.

Fair call - I'm not worried who we are chasing but if we get to next season with no new faces/options in our KPF stocks I will be seriously worried. If you look at our current options on the list I doubt very much whether any of them would get a start with any of this year's finals teams. That must be a concern for everyone I would have thought.

Not having a go at you at all No. 31 but there seems to be a reasonable number of people on this forum happy to take a swipe at the club from time to time - personally if it is deserved, I have no problem with that. When it is undeserved then that is clearly different. Nobody here really knows the real story behind Goodwin not coaching the final 3 games - either way I don't think it makes much difference to anything as we were going nowhere either way. She can have an opinion, we can all have our own. When we stop being able to voice them without being attacked is when we really need to worry.

To suggest Amiss is Weidemen 2.0 is a big stretch. Is he worth a first rounder plus Tholstrup I'd say probably not. But Tholstrup to date hasn't really fired a shot and the jury is still out on whether he will. Amiss is an upgrade on anyone we currently have on our list as a tall KPF (Fritta is not a KPF). This has and continues to be an area of need that so far, we haven't fixed.

He was certainly quick to turn the ball over

I'm not pointing the finger at the Griffiths though. I don't think any of us know exactly the reason why so many have dropped off but it's a fact and someone needs to either find a way to fix it or maybe it is time to farewell some club favorites that potentially don't have the hunger or will to give 100%

Your second sentence would suggest otherwise

Watched this bloke pretty closely live in the final game of the season v GWS Looked a bit slow to me - if we think we need a defensive mid/tagger ok I suppose but I would not want to be giving up anything more than a second-round pick at best

LOL Gunstan -------------------------- light years ----------------------------------------------------Jefferson

I watched the 2021 GF replay recently and if you don't think some of our more experienced players have dropped off in terms of speed/fitness then we must be living in a parallel universe

I'm not too fussed as to the reason our collective and in some cases individual fitness has dropped away. I'd like to address that asap so we can really start to compete with the better teams when it really matters.

So, there is an "i" in team after all

Lindsay? Salem? Bowey?

Did he say this "Then we won the flag the next year, and then he left, and we bowed out in two straight finals and it’s gone downhill since" How do you interpret that statement? Players dropped the ball? Fitness program not up to scratch?

Not saying our fitness is as good it was when Burgess was there but seriously Oliver needs to look at his own "standards" before he starts suggesting others within the club need to do better Part of the problem with our club is that they talk a big game more often than play one

It was always going to end like this Narrow defeat clutched from the jaws of victory and handing the most despised pack of deadbeats a double chance which frankly I don't think they deserve. My only solace is that despite them making finals I can't see them doing much other than filling the coffers of the corrupt AFL Any new coach worth his salt should be able to tweak this emerging game style and hopefully restore some semblance of confidence amongst a number of senior players that clearly have totally lost any idea how to win games A few months no doubt will restore my broken faith in this club - we have been here many times before Our list still has some glaring holes - I haven't seen much evidence in recent years of us being able to add recycled talent to make a meaningful difference - hopefully that's all about to change

I tend to agree that a meaningful financial punishment may be the best way to address this type of issue - the one caveat being the clubs could cover it somehow which would defeat the purpose if they did that. I'm not a particularly big fan or Rankine or Adelaide necessarily but it seems these types of suspensions are way OTT I get to a few games every season, some unfortunately do not have civilized MFC members in attendance 😀 If the AFL banned any supporter that verbally abused players, umpires or other supporters then we'd see a serious drop off in crowd numbers

Fair enough - perhaps that in itself will not be a problem As I said he does have time on his side and should fill out a bit with an AFL weights program He reminded me a bit of Kynan Brown who I'd love to think will make it but so far looks a 50/50 proposition

He did look ok for someone having his first start at VFL level He has decent speed, seems to read the game well and neat skills Is, or will he be a little undersized for AFL - that is probably the main concern (has some time on his side)

I know it's been flagged before, but I do wonder if May could reinvent himself as a KPF - we have done this successfully before with the likes of Neitz and Biffen. We seem to have more options in the tall defender category and May does offer a few characteristics that on paper at least might make this worthy of a test run. Strong overhead mark and seems to read the play and ball drop well Not easily out bodied one on one A pretty good kick over distance - (not sure about his short kicks though) Reasonably quick off the mark and in a straight line Has a physical presence something that IMO is sadly lacking in our F50 (JVR and Melky offer this to some extent, but the former is looking less like a KPF than we perhaps we had hoped) Can May function as a forward given he has followed them around for years? In theory he should know all their tricks - in any event worth some consideration now we get to have a fresh look at our list Back on topic FB - Petty - if not available or out of form TMac if he stays fit and firing CHB - JVR or Disco, personally I think Lever is not a KPD and is only useful as a third man up interceptor I'm hopeful AMW comes back next year better than ever and can release one of Rivers or Mc Vee to more midfield time

I'm not sure if Buckley is the right person to take over or not however, he admits openly that during his playing days and probably the first half of his tenure as senior coach he was always assessing his own performance and those around him with unrealistic expectations and through a negative lens. He now sees the world differently (according to him) and I'm sure would take a different approach to coaching now having a more experienced/mature head. Does that make him the best possible candidate? Maybe but we will find out soon enough Part of me whilst hating anything to do with CFC loves the idea of him winning a flag at the club he supported as a kid - and the fact that he is clearly still very driven to achieve the one thing that he failed to do in what has otherwise been a stellar career.

Very limited preseason and serious illness so his efforts this year are really very encouraging. Love the fact he seems to have a bit of mongrel - something we've really lacked in the F50 and has a decent set shot routine. Personally, if I was the incoming coach I'd be thinking he has potential to be the tall strong bodied KPF we have been hoping for. Get him in the gym and get him super fit over summer and let him have a crack early next year. Jefferson is looking unlikely at this time (unreliable kick and is timid as a church mouse) JVR wants to wrestle rather than lead like a true forward - I'm starting to think he might evolve into a KPD in time with the query being on closing speed

Seriously, if true we have a real bunch of babies at this club and the sooner we ship some out the better. It's great that they liked their coach but from the outside looking in it is starting to feel like there was not enough tough love. Their individual and team performances have bordered on shambolic at times and they are largely to blame for their coach getting shown the door. I have absolutely no doubt that any prospective coach will be in attendance today or at least watching on the TV - sook it up and play dead at your own peril would be my advice.

My three-word summary of that chance meeting Hird, please no