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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Lucifers Hero replied to Dee tention's topic in Melbourne Demons
If it were pick 26 and 31 which has also been touted it is equivalent to #10-#11. Even in normal circumstances a pick equivalent in the #10-#14 range looks a bit on the high side. If that is what they want they are doing an Essendon and acting like the player is under contract and they are happy to keep him. Hope we don't weaken especially if we want to trade up the draft. -
WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Lucifers Hero replied to Dee tention's topic in Melbourne Demons
I don't put much store in what Jon Ralph reports but fwiw: "...Melbourne was “very open” to giving Picks 31 and 33 to North in exchange for Brown". In points that is equivalent to #14 ? Not on in my book for a player they have dumped on the footpath. -
WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN
Lucifers Hero replied to Dee tention's topic in Melbourne Demons
Looks like North are playing hard ball. Reports are they have rejected Geelong's offer of #38 for Higgins. Given he wouldn't be on high $, its a 2 year contract and his age, I thought that offer quite reasonable. Hawks have let equivalent players go for picks #60+. May not bode well for what we have to trade for Brown. Hopefully, Mahoney doesn't blink. -
Since you asked so nicely..(btw I'm a female ?) Includes latest pick updates and Hannan and Preuss trades. We have 35 Senior players and 3 'A' rookies with 3 senior players and 4 rookies still OOC. We have at least 3 vacant senior spots and 1 vacant rookie spots (final number depends on list size).
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Found it! no-more-hidden-picks-afl-alters-the-draft-bidding-system "The AFL has ruled that the number of selections a club holds going into the national draft must match the number of vacant spots on their primary list". Applies to Academy and NGA clubs.
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I don't recall the details but a club (I think Sydney) did some dodgy deals a few years back and the AFL closed the loophole. I'll do some checking to confirm (or otherwise) what I wrote.
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Not sure how that will work. The AFL has a rule that a NGA/Academy club can't have more draft picks than they have list spots. (Not sure if rule applies to F/S) If I was them I would trade/swap it out for future picks as it is said to be a very strong draft. They get their guy this year and another very good one next year.
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Agreed.
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Thinking a bit more about how Bulldogs can maximise value of pick 14. There is little value swapping it for later 2020 picks as either way the points get swallowed up by their NGA player. They will get more value if they trade it out for some combo of player/2020 later picks/future picks. So I doubt they will simply swamp it for 2020 picks.
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Last year we did both. iirc we traded future 1st to North during the trade period then did a pick swap with Freo before draft night. So we are quite adept at working the system (in an honest way).
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I don't think so. I can't recall if his name was raised on here by an 'informed' poster or a wishful thinking poster.
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Is Mccrae as our draft target real or has it become DL folklore? Pick #14 is unlikely to get him once the top NGA/FS/Academy picks are taken. It will be pick ~#20. Mccrae is talked about mid 1st round pick so we need to target current picks 6-10. Heaven help us if that means dealing with Essendon... Also it is worth remembering that picks can be traded between when the player trade period closes and draft night. Then again 'live' on draft night.
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So are a bunch of other clubs. They all know that Bulldogs want to dump it. I'd be surprised if they trade it now. More value to them if they trade it post Trade close and before Draft night.
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Demand and Supply at work: Lots of interest in Preuss. Not much (if any) in Brown. Altho will wait and see if anything is attached to 33 for Brown.
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Didn't know that. Has any club done that? I recall that Hawks and Geel received an exemption to take a pick in the 4 year window but that is different to your suggestion. Would imagine a club needs a very good reason.
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We can't trade our future 1st unless we get one back or a future 2nd back.
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He isn't. Ess played a bit of dirty pool to get Wright cheaply and GCS blinked.
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That means we currently hold a 1st round, a 3rd and a 4th round pick in 2021. Edit: Just received a future 3rd rnd for Hannan.
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As per my post above. Dew just seemed to refuse to play him. With all the AFL assistance with draft picks and draft free priority zone selections the can afford to offload players for peanuts. I think he will do well at Ess so they are more likely to get the 2017 version.
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GCS was a mess for the first part of his career up there. Nonetheless he has played some excellent games. Hasn't had a clear run it and fell out of favour with Dew. Will benefit greatly from a more positive environment, altho must say not sure that is Essendon. At least there he will get regular games to show what he can do.
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Highway robbery!
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TMac was an Ess ploy. I guess various clubs play those games but but I think it is low life tactic. Hope Tom didn't take their advances seriously.
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Its amusing that Pies and Ess are trying to concoct a deal that will entice the Bulldgos to play their game: Dunkley to Ess, Treloar to Bulldogs and Bulldogs 1st round pick to pies. Problem is Bulldogs aren't interested! Treloar to Bulldogs is commentators 'connecting the dots' but apparently they haven't even spoken to him.
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With a few teams digging in their heels and not meeting unreasonable trade demands may see some high(er) profile players stay at their club. Port losing interest in Fantasia. No apparent takers for Treloar, Phillips, Cox, Stephenson (Collingwood). Bulldogs intent on keeping Dunkley No takers for TMac Caldwell stay at the Giants? There are others that are stalemates that will probably get done: Saad, Cameron. Would expect pies to cave in to make two of their players tradeable. This trade period is rapidly becoming a fizzer.
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Wrong thread