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Totally agree. Just for clarity the ATAGI for inconsistency in age group recommendations I was referring to in my last post was initially they said it was for 60+ then for a while they said 50+ then they changed it back to 60+. Those recommendations have driven the communications on AZ and I agree ATAGI don't seem to be aware of the role they have played in the confusion.

1) that quote was primarily in the context of 60+ and was two days before the ATAGI endorsed AZ for all age groups in NSW. A rider or not I would expect a PM of any political persuasion to protect as many citizens as possible with a vaccine that has been successfully used internationally across all age groups. 2) As would the families of the 21 people under 60 with covid in NSW hospitals. As would the the family of the 30+ female who died of covid on Saturday and the family of the 57 yo mother who died with covid last week. Hopefully not, but soon we may have as many under 60 deaths from covid as there have been overall deaths (6) from AZ vaccine in Australia. 3) Some of the responsibility for the PR 'nightmare' is with the Feds but it also goes back to ATAGI for inconsistency in age group recommendations, State Premiers and CFO's pushing their own views. Most of these have chosen to ignore international experience. Not to mention the media sensationalising AZ issues. As you are in health it staggers me that you want to make covid a political issue on DL. To my mind it is an issue that should stand above politics and discussed as objectively as possible.

The run home: I think the top 7 are set with only the order to be decided. Unfortunately, there is a very good chance that we meet Geelong in the first final if they are 1st and we are 4th or they are 2nd and we are 3rd. Lets hope decent sized crowds are allowed at the G for finals otherwise Cats will be lobbying for the game to be at GMHBA. Two consecutive weeks of playing them at Geelong is more than I could bear. The solution: Beat them in round 23!! We either finish above them or get the game at the G. Altho I'm not sure the G is an advantage as we have lost our last two games there.

Not sure Prof Fisher's views will carry much sway with state Premiers. While he talks mainly of Victoria, if followed thru crowds would be banned in all states for all events. Perhaps worthy but not going to happen.

Thanks for elaborating. Share your concern about loss of a key player. Ch 7 put up a chart last night that compared the depth of the two teams. I think we had 6 players that had at least 1 AFL game this year. The bulldogs had about a dozen. It backs up your point on lack of exposed talent. Its a bit scary how thin we are. Very fit list with limited depth.

No one has said AZ is 'totally safe'. in fact great pains are taken by the ATAGI, politicians, medicos and others to say it has risks. Risks widely advertised by the media. ATAGI has understandably taken a cautious stance with vaccine use and AZ, at all times weighing up the risks of a vaccine and its benefits vs the risk and severity of contracting covid. They now have 6-9 months of international AZ use across various age groups so have better data on which to weigh up the risks/benefits. My read (paraphrasing) is they have concluded the Delta variant shifts their risk assessment of contagion and severity. And that AZ is better than no vaccine in high risk areas, hence why their recommendation is for NSW. To my mind they are continuing to be cautious and responsible. The medical industry has pushed back on the ATAGI on its risk/benefit assessment of AZ in light of the Delta variant. So has the PM. They have every right and in fact have a duty to ask for a reassessment by ATAGI of risk/benefit when circumstances change, as they have with Delta. The first covid was dangerous for 'older people'. Delta is now equally dangerous for all age groups. It is tragic the number of <40 y.o in NSW hospital's with covid. The ATAGI has recognised this in its latest recommendations.

Both Bont goals came from being left unguarded goal side, also his deadly left side for kicking. It doesn't take rocket science for someone to man up his left side/jostle a bit instead of all dive for the ball. Terrible lapses in concentration by us.

An interesting thought. Is that because we haven't given the non 22+sub players chances at AFL to provide the depth or we just don't have the talent? We've had chances to do the former via the medi sub or some judicious experimenting/resting here and there, so interested in your thoughts.

6th gets a Home final vs 7th. 5th gts a Home final vs 8th. But who knows where finals we be - they may all be in Perth...

Where do you keep hearing this? Max said they loaded up during the bye but there has been nothing other than DL conjecture to support that loading has continued. I think the 'looking slow' has as much to do with decision making and confidence as it does to 'fatigue'. Our ball movement just isn't as sharp as it was earlier in the year. There are many reasons why players look fatigued: injury, soreness, youth, lost confidence leading to slow reaction times, opp tactics to interfere with ball movement, a long season etc etc. Having said that, I agree with posters saying 'managing' players, particularly those that are young, sore or 'tired' should have happened in recent games. By 'managing' I mean rested from games not just reduced game time. Whatever, the reason for our ball movement going off, lets hope we get our zip back very soon.

He has 'blinked first' with with selections, is rolling the dice and flirting with his system. Will be interesting to see if his selection gambles pay off. In a way I'm surprised that he has left changes to his fwd set up this late as the trend was there before the Sydney game exposed by Dees and Cats. Bedazzled by their big wins over Eagles and North perhaps.

100 pts it often a de facto cut-off point when AFL score comparisons are made in the media/AFL for high/low scoring trends. That aside, my post was highlighting the drop off in their fwd line performance both in terms of high scores ie > 100 and conversion in the most recent games. To make the comparison clearer: In the first 10 games bulldogs kicked 100 or more in 6 of their 10 games. They won 9 of those 10 games and in each win they had positive conversion: more goals than points. As per my post, since then they have kicked >100 in one of 7 games and positive conversion in two of those 7 games. In the first 10 games they had 3 scores of 90+ and they have 3 since so no change there. Interestingly, it is the last game we played which changed their scoring momentum. Coincidence? I don't fear their fwd line or their back line. Tipping us to win.

Apology. On first reading it didn't sound so. Time for to get another espresso!

Isn't that what my post shows? Altho I wouldn't say 'crap', more that they are not as dangerous as it is lauded to be; at least not vs better teams and not in the last part of the season.

For their supposed dangerous fwd line, the Bulldogs have had kicking yips with more points than goals. Last few months form line: vs Dees they kicked 8.11.59 for a L vs Freo they kicked 13.15.93 for a W vs Geelong they kicked 11.12.78 for a L. vs Eagles they kicked 13.20.98 for a W. vs North they kicked 16.12.108 for a W. vs Syd they kicked 8.12.60 for a L. vs GCS they kicked 14.6.90 for a W Those aren't like the very high scores of early in the season, with just one game over 100pts. Vs top 8 sides they have kicked 59, 78, 98 and 60 and lost 3 of those games of which two were at Marvel. If their weakness is supposedly defence Bevo must also be worried with the fwd line's inability to score well vs the 'better' teams and imv the evidence shows it isn't as dangerous as many believe. We have every reason to be confident of a win this week.

Some bulldogs fans think Schache will play in defence. We are taller and more experienced this time with Brown instead of Weideman so the idea makes sense but I doubt that Schache is a good choice. Given he has played only one or two games this year it is hard to see him influencing things in defence or as a fwd. In defence I would think our fwds could run off him and leave him exposed. As a fwd and maybe a negating player It would be low risk for Lever to play off him. This may sound harsh I don't think he has the nous nor the motivation to stick to a role. Even so, Beveridge clearly has a plan, be it a late change or rolling the dice some more.

Teams in an hour. Any known changes?

It looked like you were laying the groundwork for another political bashing so I felt it important to not take the bait and play it with a straight bat. That aside, Vics and in particular in Melbourne we have learnt the hard way, having endured 185 days of lockdown so are more accepting of the need to follow the rules! 6 months of on/off stress!

A person can be infectious without symptoms so are innocently 'out and about' within the allowed restrictions. Or it could be because too many are flouting the rules and or not taking symptoms seriously..

Bad news: 26 new local cases. Good news: all connected to known clusters. Round 19 can go ahead as currently scheduled. After that it becomes a juggling act for the AFL. Whichever way the cards fall we are well placed with few injuries. We have had little disruption to players (a lot to fans and club's $) in that players spent about 10 days in Sydney in the May lockdown. If we have to go to Qld then directly to WA I reckon we can take it in our stride and cover any player who can't play in either or both states for family/personal reasons.

This game will be interesting tactically. Last time we cut Libba out and "blocked the corridor" with Lever going hoarse from shouting it so often. If they got the ball fwd it forced them out to the boundaries so had to take more difficult shots. We learnt that lesson from the Adelaide loss. Both tactics caught the Bulldogs by surprise. Bulldogs would have learnt plenty from the Hawks game where they made May and Lever accountable, shut down Salem making it harder for us to attack down Langdon's wing. In doing so they weakened our defensive and attacking weapons but not to the point of getting a big score or a win. Bulldgos rested Libba last week. They will be ready with counter measures for him and for the blocked corridor tactic. And, we will learn plenty from their game vs GCS in which they were average. While winning in recent times they aren't playing great football. I saw vision that showed they hunt the ball in packs leaving themselves exposed on the outside. I would really like to see Brayshaw back on the wing and we regain the extra defensive layer when he and Langdon roll back to reinforce our defence around the 50m arc. It will be fascinating to watch how it pans out. i think we will win.

Yes they would but lets wait and see what happens with covid and travel. If it turns out to be GC:WA:Home then various options come to mind: a player goes to GC and flies back so 1-3 days away, missing the Eagles game. Skip the GC game, go straight Melb:Perth and be away for 8-9 days. The club could, probably would, help provide extra support for the young mums eg home nursing care or whatever is needed and player not miss any games. I suspect if we win this week the decisions will be a bit easier.

Bad news: 22 new local cases. Good news: all connected to known clusters. A few days ago I thought that if we play Darwin we would then fly straight to Perth and quarantine there for the required week. Given today's numbers there is almost zero chance of playing in Darwin. The club's view yesterday: how-covid-could-impact-demons-in-coming-weeks “We haven’t been told anything official yet, but based off what other teams in a similar situation have had to do, all things being equal you’d imagine that we’ll go to the Gold Coast next week,” McPherson said on The Talking Points. “Play up there then most probably fly across to Perth, quarantine for seven days, then play the Eagles before returning.” “If guys’ priorities are to stay home, with young families or whatever reason, we certainly won’t stand in the way of that and we’ll be fully supportive,” McPherson said". Depending what the Qld quarantine requirements are time away could be anything from 10 to 14 days. The players most likely to be affected are Lever, TMac who both have toddlers and new born babes and maybe Jack V as his bub is still young. Today's numbers may be enough for Qld and WA to further tighten the borders so who knows, we might get lucky and all teams move to Victoria....

Excellent post. Each point spot on. The most realistic and unbiased/constructive assessment I've seen of our recent performances and the issues before us..

One would hope so. One would think they would play as many of the first time games as soon as possible in 2021. Instead they are about to push out two games where clubs have not played each other (Dees vs GCS and WBD vs Crows) for double ups this weekend. So, I don't hold out much hope of them doing what is sensible next year.