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Training and preparation should not be a cookie cutter prescription so this argument is flawed. Every player would have a different program for totally different reasons. Coaches should be communicating this and ensure that performance is elite. Its not all Jacks fault all the time. Seems Goodies given up that's his call. Hope this is not a Neeld moment. He can use it to get better results and that will be the measure Other clubs seem to think they can get better performance. Ladder results will tell.

Yeah well it's the right message to expect higher standards but why deliver it through one of players who can perform while leaving many others who are just as inconsistent. Watts does not lose every match on his own in fact he has often performed when others havent

Thanks PM that's the sort of stuff I would like to see but more. There is no bad news it's all good. We will clear the air and progress.

This is an excellent opportunity for a coach. Jack says I want to stay. Coach says this is what I expect. Perform like this you stay. I will play you and you can show your fellow players, coaches and opposition how good you can be. Increase your value and you can choose better options later including with us. If you choose not to perform we all lose and your value goes down. I expect you to be the fittest and strongest you have ever been. We don't want you to get injured cause you were under prepared. Get training. It's gonna be a long hard and rewarding year.

He could claim that he was under the influence of a side effect from the The whatever it took campaign and has no personal recollection or understanding of the incident. Perhaps the respected issuer of the Norm Smith medal could provide some assistance with records that supplements produce such effects

Some great comments here. Im happy with Goodwin but agree that progress must continue. just heard on Offsiders lat year was run and spread this year pressure. We need to find our way of winnng, not just repeat what other teams are doing. Two ways 1 use the whole squad. Helps overcome the impact of injuries and adds depth. Allows us to match up against opposition by using the right balance of skills etc on any given game. 2 Be prepared with plan B Or C or D to use within a game. The use of Pedo, Watts TMac when injury forced were an indicator of how this can work successfully. We must also ensure we have a better rapport with the umpires. Both Dogs and Tigers showed that if you are not pinged for throwing or jumping in peoples back without penalty then you have a confidence to do anything. The Pies have this attribute as well as their supporters numbers intimidate the umpires to give them benefit of the doubt. Get the umpires down to training acknowledging that we do things wrong and are happy to change to meet their understandings. Treat them with respect and significance. The coach can initiate these changes and identify them as part of his progress and the clubs need to change things and improve. Go Dees

True but showed we were good enough to. More about the North and Pies results which I suppose also showed they were poor enough to lose to everyone. Must improve consistency increase desire and desperation.

Am trying to build up enough enthusiasm to watch let alone care about the result. i just hope the coach is watching with every player and reminds them they were good enough to beat both sides but were not able to beat North and the Pies. The boys should be humiliated and chastened no then inspired to play every second of every game next year so they and we can be interested again.

Greater detail requires greater research, time and effort to take beyond "creative vision" . The "feed the man meat" campaign would be a model. Approach the body sponsoring that campaign to add a group of healthy men and women with healthy appetites and diets which include red and blue meat. I understand we have a dynamic and progressive marketing team who can use their imagination and take it further. Happy to help.

Hey let's trade this lazy inconsistent dude more interested in board shorts to Gol Coast after GWS win their flag fulfilling the AFL record of new franchise teams winning flags. Then GC can close our window of opportunity coz we will be one skilled player short of a team. Lets not try and recreate the player who contributed in more score creating opportunities and has been as inconsistent as the rest of the team. Let's not try and use him and improve him and the rest of the team. Let's not show some loyalty to the players Oh why go on you know what I mean

I suggested some time go that we look to national livestock or meat industry sponsorship. An image of players tucking into red and blue meat around a barby would be outrageous Happy to provide greater detail if someone from the club is interested

Great work by all Celebrate well and appreciate that winning feeling. Let it bubble up from the bottom to percolate through the club during the off season. Keep reminding us KC, you are a winner too.

Only if this happens.

Gee Nutz pretty good Use the whole squad all year not just best 22 every match until they burn out. Every player should be exhausted after the match, recover and train but if not ready should be able to sand aside for a replacement who can compete until exhausted, and is then replaced. FROM THE SQUAD. Specific match ups can be made for a particular opponent, maybe even someone dispensable who nullify San opponent until exhausted and takes a few weeks to recover. Maybe rest and recuperate in the 2's until the replacement is exhausted or does not match up. Been saying this since Neeld. We have a better squad but still don't seem to use it. oh and get a motivational speaker each week who pumps the team up and they come out breathing fire. This speaker would change each week and would be briefed by the coach according to the make up of the team and the features of the opposition.

This thread supports my own thoughts. I am willingly Ng to a fifer my services as a business manger consultant to assist the club in its so many obvious deficiencies

So right Clint Supporters, even those able to acknowledge our progress, would be hurting. Our expectations were lifted from the results against better sides (Adelaide etc). To play so poorly against North Brisbane and Pies when so much was on the line was beyond disappointing. I still think that we should use the squad more fully and be more professional in our match ups. To soon for nything other than consider finals with Esondon and James Hird and how that will work out. Maybe better to go skiing

That won't worry the AFL. They need to have all the individuals recognised as winners in Sydney

Perhaps it's a good year to finish ninth as AFL have a preference for a GWS flag Next year we remind them of our supplicant approach over the past few years and indicate that we may be forced to follow other clubs and do whatever it takes including taking a more rigorous approach to list management, result manipulation and scientific analysis of chemically enhanced performance and a less stringent approach to record keeping. Oh and we might introduce an umpires academy where outstanding performance is recognised with the rewarding of significant financial assistance.

Same against North

No problem. hence my comment that I reckon he's "doing ok" which was referenced to Goodwin , not Watts but maybe poorly expressed. I'm happy to wait and see what the coach does and agree with him coz I have no fn idea and about as much as everyone else. My comment on intensity, skill sets etc displayed in Hobart and Collingwood viewed by me still apply,. Just trying to support our team and every player not make totally negative comments about one of our players.

Well I was at Hobart on what was a disastrous day. I clearly recall Watts launching through a pack in the middle of the ground and should have been given the mark but of course wasn't given. The play I think resulted in a goal to us. A goal in the goal square to Hogan was created by Watts contesting and tapping it down through the three North defenders surrounding him almost on to Jesse boot. He maybe didn't/doesn't get to five in a quarter but I don't reckon that makes him less effective. And "intensity"FFS I guess he showed no intensity running from backline to take that goal against Collingwood, oh and getting back to take the mark in the back line not long after. Spare me Jack plays a different style of game than Viney. We need them both. Goodwin played with plenty of players with different skill sets and attributes. As coach he needs to make sure they are all included as appropriate when needed. I reckon he is doing ok despite the grief caused by the Hobart wind . The loss there was certainly not Jacks fault, apart from a short kick to Hogan which did not result in a score when he probably could have kicked with the wind from 55 and scored himself. Only Jack and Goodie know what he is or is not doing but we are unlikely to hear from either of them.

Standards seem to have dropped. Pleased that Others have identified the lack of a good wine to wash the repast down. Was an adopted practice to spend time preparing the afternoon tea with a secret ingredient in order to divert attention away from the constant loss. We renewed the practice at Tassie where we created rolls including local products.Bruny Island cheese, Evansford smoked wallaby salami, pickled walnuts from Ross and a Deloraine chutney. We of course committed the cardinal sin of not having the Gluewien in the thermos. We were fortunate that the Swiss army pocket knife was approved by security who appreciated that it would not only be used to divide the rolls amongst the masses but would come in handy for slashing wrists if required. We refused the later course as mentioned earlier we forgot the wine. Lucky.

Sort of agree scarlett watts does play a role rather than a dominator. i think he contributes more than negates A bad Watts day is better than most other players bet days i hope we can rest in him in twos. But we must bet the saints

What Didn't play well?????? the team won I see and he was in it Watts does not not win any game by himself but by crickey he improves any teams performance i hope that Goody can incite the team to win without him tomorrow This is a crucial game

Well I certainly hope that Goody and the coaching team know what they are doing we must beat saints and if we can do so without Watts great if we lose well it's getting close to crunch time