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Best Off Ground definitely. Reckon he'd be same today building an impressive season Hope the players hear him in their heads next week

I have a long standing relationship with lawyers from previous matters considers by the authorities to be less than beneficial to society. Having studied and worked in Industrial relations I have tried to redress that balance. Of course all activities have been parallel to my support for the demons so there may be some strange relationship that recognises Newtons immutable 4 th law

Thanks Bitter. i shall do my best to contribute but fear my sporadic attendance usually results in post hoc thought usually trumped by the more astute observer. However given the new levels of trumping achieved by POTUS perhaps there is hope for me.

Oh no while your summary includes most of the contributors I recognise, I am sure there are more in the audience with a reticence to step into the primal swamp that this thread inhabits. I myself have attempted to engage but my feeble efforts have received little attention. When placed against the wit or witless comments of the more erudite and reticulate, not to mention the obtuse or extreme rantings it is understandable. However it is the thread that detracts from the depressing and mundane that I found attracted me more than any other on this site. Please, please continue the eclectic and outrageous conversations. if required I will research and report banana price movements but would be much happier with wine and beer analysing, although I fear such a restricted topic would lead us all into a state of ruination

One point I have been thinking about is the crowd factor. It's often referred to as perhaps influencing umpire and player performance. last week in Brisbane Melbourne supporters were in the ascendancy and did not let up. Cheering increased from the area I was in with my mate who always is loud and attracts interest from supporters. He always encourages those around him to participate and can be critical of poor performance from players and supporters alike . He is often criticised for his forthright and loud comments but has often inspired others. in Brisbane this went to a new level and his cheering efforts were echoed by everyone around him. While the winning made it easier there was a great sense of comradeship which was enhanced by his obvious support. He encouraged those around him and it worked. Everyone clapped cheered and bought in to the Victorian cheer machine. i want to ask Saty if the players were affected by the strength of the supporters who never flagged and never faltered. Certainly Max delayed his exit and scanned the crowd taking in the adulation. This was a barracking experience which contained all the intensity and focus that I have been asking the player so to exhibit, it was an exhilarating place to be. i wont be at the game tomorrowand neither will many of the Brisbane supporters but if the players know how much last weeks efforts meant to us they will play their hearts out just as we supporters do. My mate will be there again I hope they give him the chance to build the supporters by winning from the start and staying in front. Not sure if Saty or anyone else picked any insight into players reaction to the support in Brisbane.

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Weids and Spargo are the future. Pedersen and Garlett are the present. Viney to take Dom who resets for the Adelaide game. And I do mean re-sets not rest.

TMac perhaps performing the role Pedersen could have done had he been selected in previous weeks. I have been saying I agree that Weiss is the future and needs to be exposed to the main game but I also think Pedersen is the older harder more developed version of him and should not languish in the two's

Not me LDvC. i have been banging on about this since Neeld. If you look at my collective quotes over the year you would see a pattern of recognising the strengths of the collective diversity. I also acknowledge the difficulty in achieving consistent maximum result. I also state constantly that that is the coaches job and performance indicator.

Players rolling in and out is a strength when they are trained consistently and know each other's skills and habits. That can and may be occurring as you say. Hooray Weiderman should be developed the same way. Don't burn him out swap him with Pedersen when the opposition and his condition require. Pedersen is an older harder body better against older harder tougher marking defenders. Weid will grow and get the strength and skill. Use of the full squad is our critical point. Selection is now more important as we don't have only a best 22!

Definitely agree re Stretch. Did little Tuesday but wasn't alone. Got caught out often and fumbled but wasn't alone. Not well supported by those around him, no shepherding evidenced. Could do with a few weeks to adjust to pace of the game. But we need to see more team oriented play from all the team.

Think I agree with most of this but some dumb and lazy footy really affected the result, and mainly at critical times. still some concerns with structure, we appear static around stoppages.How do we not benefit from ruck dominance. Liked Weeds work, he is the future but he should be played against younger sides. Pederson older harder body better in the role. Hope Stretch gets another run to adjust to the pace of this level. Needs support from those around him. Leadership and total team commitment lacking. Intensity and focus need to be addressed. Perhaps training needs more intensity and team building. Hope there is some honest and hard analysis of this.

Sort of agree with both Druss and Pra Ha later comments. NJ is not the problem and has certainly endured with a deserved reputation when we were less than we should be now. He however has not been able to command a consistent inspirational presence and particularly not when required. i do not recognise that player in the club at the moment and maybe modern matrix management practice would recognise more than an individual.. I am not in the sack Goodwin camp yet but it is part of his job and he must be addressing this issue along with several other matters resulting in our current circumstance.

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The boys were given a real kick up the behind by the coaching team led by Goodie who admitted he may have made too few changes before and during the game. The prez came down and reiterated how poor the performance was an that membership and the future of the club requires better performance. The players committed to improving communication to keep us all focused on winning. We are embarrassed by the result last week and know we can play better. We know that we have the skills within the squad to match up to every team.We know that we cannot expect to play every match in the ones. If we are not fit for the opposition we will be told why and accept the structures and styles the coaches have told us and work hard with the selected team to force pressure at training to replicate the game. The match against Hawthorn showed us how a professional team plays and we have added their endeavour to our efforts.We understand and appreciate our supporters disappointment and will show them through our intensity at training and at the match that we are aware of their efforts. We do not intend to disappoint them again through lack of effort . They will know that the players on the ground will represent them in a better fashion every week.

Initially was going to like but needed more restraint and detail. "The Camp" needs to be used as a motivating tool. Players you said you didn't need these lessons, you must prove that through off and on ground performance. Must show desire and focus for total time in training and game time 100%. This is your job, you are well paid, you must perform. Some of the issues are beyond players. Selection needs to be focused on the opposition make up, weather etc and the whole squad used to achieve maximum team results. Questions need to be discussed? What do we do to stop a run? What do we do about Buggs inaccuracy? How do we react to a set back? How do we react to change? Dont know that "grow a pair" is an adequate descriptor but certainly share your frustration. You are certainly correct about Admin impacts and that must be where direction comes from, for reasons you identify. Next week now a crunch, but this must be a recognised and sustained response. Every week is a crunch on this competition but every week will require a different structure and approach. These elite athletes need some serious introspection and perhaps mental application.

Glad I'm in Cornwall

Hunt and Lever rotate off the bench in defence in same fashion as weid and pedo in the attack. These guys add to the churn with only one or the other on at any time rotating with others as required. i have been promoting the churn as a new coaching tactic and think we are developing the playing list to acheive that. We can also churn the list each game to suit the opposition. Having no injuries is the bonus factor.

I have been saying for many years that the shepherd is vital. it creates space and allows balance and clean disposal. While umpires often penalise an off the ball shepherd,it is still the most valuable tool for offensive play. Any player who disposes of the ball should instantly shepherd the player they gave it to, this would make their disposal more valuable. Bring back the shepherd!

Thanx MS

Enjoyed this thread. It seems there is a strong argument for including Peterson the older or Weiderman the next generation as the replacement for T Mac in the second tall forward role. Weid played well against Hawks last year but they may have underestimated him then and won't do so again. It might be worth selecting both and having them rotate through the bench.

Isn't the head "sacrosanct" or was that the regime of the previous AFL CEO?

So what are the stats on frees for and against and is there any indication of where paid, ie forward,mid,or back. Also any comparison with other team totals.

I think so too.Last second reflex glance resulted in defensive side on which Brown did not adopt and left himself open. Still it is a Melbourne player so expect 2weeks.

In Frankfurt waiting for reports. No one here knows nor cares. WHY CANT I SLEEP????? GODEES!!!!!