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I don't think we will get a gun mid for pick one, there will be offers but no one at the quality for that pick but 3 for Adams and 10 is worth considering. Someone like Crouch maybe still available at 10.
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I do get what you are saying and yes big claims are made each year. Our good friend Kevin Sheehan is prone to overstatement when he likens different players to Ablett, Selwood etc. it's probably more what the supporters think they are getting, "we've got the next Judd, Selwood, Ablett etc." no, this is the style of game they play, just not anywhere near as good would be the over riding statement if Kev was being serious. I'm not sure whether Boyd is what he is cracked up to be (I hope our beefed up and improved recruiters know the answer and are not carried away with the hype) and I guess my point or points are this, if he is that good we take him no matter what our need for mids is you don't pass up this type of player. The other point is I don't think our forward line is the best in the comp and will not be with the current group so if we can make it better we should.
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Hawkins has been very good (not now with back), Daniher needs to put on weight (not a problem with Boyd), Hogan was selected at CHB in AA squad with Boyd at FF and the experts all rate Boyd a fair way ahead of Patton. Caddy has surprised me at Geelong, he has been better than I expected but I agree if we had pick one to put up it would need to be for a Griffen and Dangerfield and it's not going to happen. Rockliff or Rich are not worth pick one.
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He's not that bad, he's certainly streets ahead of Jamar and Spencer in this area of his game. He just does't have the tank to keep at it.
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Love Chappy but he is almost shot, one more finals campaign for him if he can get through it and retire would be my advice. He is one hammy away from finished.
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I'm not sure he didn't want to ruck but it was more they didn't seem to have him settled in a position. He had a great year when he was left to ruck but with Leuenberger on the scene he was moved around. In the forward line everything revolved around Brown. He has been sensational as a forward but I think he would play a role like Ottens for us in the ruck and I think Clark would add to our midfield. As for the foot, having no medical quals but from what I understand is he will be back with no more risk of further injury than any other player. I'd look at a rookie ruck man too, pity we didn't get Hannath last year.
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Personal opinion 'stuie', but I would play Clark in the ruck. I think he adds another player to our midfield and will get a lot of his own ball, something that Jamar and Spencer don't do. Boyd does run through the ruck and would be the relief for Clark, as we've seen with Grundy this year if you are good enough all this development talk for young talls doesn't count. They can come in and make an immediate impact. Clark is probably our next best mid anyway, if his foot is right to go then he is right to play any position on the ground. I don't go with the idea of protecting him as a forward, there's no place to hide these days in AFL footy. Of course if we don't get PP1 it's another argument, I would still look at Clark in the ruck though for the reasons above. I just think we are one man down if we take Jamar or Spencer in. Gawn I think has more upside but is still a bit off yet and needs an injury free run this preseason.
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I wouldn't put Fitz or Gawn in a good enough yet and I'm still not sold on Dawes. I understand the point on mids but a top key position player would be hard to turn down if he was available. Remember Wallace at Richmond recruited for mids and passed up Franklin, the lesson is best available.
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So we don't want the player seen as once in a generation FF? not so sure about that.
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I think Crowley was unlucky, he is a tagger who can hurt going the other way and is rarely beaten. He is a very underrated player and must be in line for back to back B&F's at Freo.
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The problem with Essendon is they are in limbo until the final ASADA report comes down. Anyone would be foolish to trade with them not knowing if the player faces 2 years out of the game and any player from another club would have to think twice about going to a club that might have a fair part of their list suspended and the club in turmoil again. If it wasn't for this situation Bellchambers is streets ahead of Jamar, the game has passed him by.
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I wasn't necessarily talking power forward but Watts and Fitz may draw something, Dawes is still an option and I see Clark as a better ruck option that adds to the midfield strength straight up. Dawes is a problem with injury mainly because he seems prone to soft tissue problems, Clark has just had recurring problems with the one injury (apart from when he tried to kill himself taking a mark) and if he gets over that he should be ok. Clark and Boyd rotating in the ruck with Dawes and Hogan holding down forward positions looks pretty good to me.
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I'm really impressed by this as well, a big plus for the club, leadership group and Roos.
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As 'master' said above he missed most of his first year only playing 2 games maybe 3. One of those he was BOG against Box Hill on no preseason. Again limited prep this year and was very close to playing AFL in the last 2 games. Why I would keep him is that he is a good size for a mid and has excellent skills, he is one of the few good kicks at the club, good overhead and a strong tackle. He does go missing in games and doesn't get involved enough and I think this is a confidence thing, with development being a priority at the cub we should keep the players who have his kind of raw talent.
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I would take Boyd and trade some of our other forward options for mids, as 'Bob' says non of the other clubs will give up a star mid for the pick. Lets trade for the more experienced mids and set up our forward line for the next 10 years. You don't let a player like Boyd go.
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They might be keen to keep him but my Essendon contacts tell me he will go to GWS, the bombers can't make an offer that will keep him at the club.
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Perfectly, I just don't think it's as big an issue with the other clubs that you and others do. Yes they will make some noise but they will about anything, it's why a commission was put in place. I would expect the commission to do it's job.
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'Rhino', it's not our decision I know that but we are pretty certain to get a PP in the top 2. Even if we picked up one at the end of the second round there would be other clubs complaining as they are now about Roos. I wouldn't be overly concerned, ruthless is a term used by our president just a throw away line by me in this case. I think some of our supporters need to harden up a bit. However when it comes to the draft and trade period I think we do need to be ruthless in our dealing and if we don't get what we want be prepared for a player to drop to us in the PSD. We can't afford to be "nice guys".
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The other clubs will be upset with anything we get, Brayshaw is upset about us getting Roos. I don't get why people on here seem concerned with the feelings of the other clubs. Time for us to be ruthless as President Bartlett says.
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Not sure if he was loose as I was only watching on TV but it looked like our younger players struggled to run with him. He just keeps moving and creating play.
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I think it's realistic to expect 40,000 members if Roos signs on. He will also be the catalyst for increased sponsorship and match attendance, I think his salary will be well and truly covered.
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Why are some so concerned about what the other clubs think??? We are on track to get pick one, lets just argue about what we will do with Boyd.
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Agree with this 'master', I don't see him as a deep forward either and he certainly seemed to be labouring in the 2nd half of the season. His first half of the season was good.