Undeeterred

He made a contest out of what looked like an easy mark to Peter Wright today. Just love him - his hardness at it is unquestionable.

That was utter class. Kent was literally standing still and the GC defender still couldn't get close to him. And the pass to Dawes, where he kicked it almost 50m off the outside of his boot to advantage was probably even better.

I was there, and watching. My point was that Jaded was talking about how it looked like his knee was buckling etc, and hoping it didn't get more damaged. But yeah, definitely thought he would have just bruised the bone or something.

I haven't seen any of the post match reporting, but it looked like it would have been a massive knock that cause it to bruise/stiffen up. Don't think they'd have let him go back on if it was structural, or more damage would be done, but the number of people hanging it on him is astonishing in the circumstaces...

All you've done for the last week is [censored] and moan about how performance is irrelevant and that the win is all that matters. Now you're pissing and moaning that the win is irrelevant, and that the performance is all that matters. Do you just like being a whiny, boring person?

For all the idiots potting Hogan - did you miss the bit where he literally couldn't run for the entire second half?

Isn't he a Mormon?

Utter nonsense. He allows Watts to take the third forward. Why do you think Watts was able to outmark his opponent all day?

Just bad decision making today.

This. He's been undisciplined and wasteful for at least the last 6 weeks. And petulant.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic but, if not, why does it not count? It's just nonsense.

Sorry mate, you ain't going to get a lot of love for that [censored] on these boards.

Muscle memory is key for goal kicking. I'm more of a basketballer nowadays, but in my mid-30s I've been using the same routine literally every time I shoot a free throw since I was about 10. It works for me, and has for that long.

He was pretty friggin' mad, and for a long time in that footage too. Lots of very, very angry pointing and shouting....

WEST COAST v MELBOURNE 8 Dom Tyson (Melb)7 Nathan Jones (Melb)4 Dean Kent (Melb)4 Matt Priddis (WCE)4 Jack Viney (Melb)2 Jeremy McGovern (WCE)1 Shannon Hurn (WCE)

Love the people on here potting Kent - third best on ground according to the coaches.

I don't think he has at all. Just because we all get the 'point' of it, doesn't mean it wasn't stupid.

Best to keep the snark for when PD is wrong, I reckon....

He did make that exact point.

Brent Harvey's book: 'Me by Brent Harvey Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me. The End.'

I completely agree with all of this, but there's so little transparency around pay that it's hard to make judgments. And that's not to say I think salaries should be published either - in the end, why should the public know what football players earn? It almost doesn't matter what they're on, because it's a free market in the end. Whether Tom McDonald is worth whatever he ends up getting paid is essentially irrelevant, because he's a young, solid, KPD and there'll be a club out there who has the money to pay for him if he chooses based on money. It's like what is going on in the NBA this off-season - there are some mind blowing numbers being bandied around for a lot of free agents that are decidedly average, but the fact that there's someone willing to pay those mind blowing amounts sets the market at the right level. Sounds to me like Tom McDonald is chasing $$, in which case we're either in a position to match, and want to, or we're not!

Sorry, but I just have to call people on picking players salaries like this. On what basis do you pull that number out of the air as Tom's 'value'? What are you using as comparison? And can you tell me how the new CBA has affected your calculations? If you can't answer those questions, you're just pulling figures out of your bum, quite frankly.

That second bit has been in the media for weeks. And he'll get it, don't you worry.

Mods: why are some posters allowed to throw taunts about being English at someone without consequence? It's clearly not being done in a light-hearted way and, despite what many think, it's no different to applying other racial slurs.