Undeeterred

Nonsense. We got exactly what the formula said we should. And the rest of your post has absolutely nothing to do with my original point.

Which is relevant to the level of compensation how? The discussion is whether we were compensated for the player we lost. Your random point about how lazy he was and whether he would fit at another club is a complete red herring.

This. Such a huge difference between playing hard footy and being a dirty Hawthorn sniper.

Which is 100% irrelevant to my post.

Frawley was one of most important players and, for all the whining we used to do about Sylvia, he was easily first 10 picked each week when he left.

Essendon would do their nut. Won't happen.

Loved that play - Petracca looked majorly p1ssed and chased Gibson down no worries. Was hilarious.

I'd take two goals from a tagger every day of the week. Interesting that apparently he was rested against Gold Coast so he'd be fresh for this one...

That was the point after which I genuinely expected us to win - Oliver did something fairly desperate and quite extraordinary, but Bugg's kick out of the air was sensational as well. It was such a great, confident passage of play that I thought they looked on from that moment.

It was started two years ago.

It was pretty huge and really gave them the belief that they could be headed late and get themselves back in front.

I'm sure you're right. Just as important is that the delivery into him is getting better too, giving him more chances at kicking goals. The couple of laser passes from Kent spring to mind, and that one over the top that was kicked perfectly to his advantage inside 50.

Absolutely. Was sensational work.

I don't rate it, especially not against ours. Other than Neale, I'd say most of those players are either on the downslope or coming back from serious injury. But that's ok - we can disagree.

Just quietly, apart from kicking three of his own, Jack Watts and his absolutely sublime delivery led to three more in the last quarter alone (hitting Pedo on the lead, Tyson for the sealer, Tyson's last one from just forward of the centre circle). There were probably others through the game that I can't recall. He is just a supremely important player. What a bloody star. Kent put a couple down Watts' throat too - he is seriously underrated going into 50 and has great chemistry with Hogan too.

He was paid the free - Brayshaw took the advantage

Actually, that's a good point. That spoil, going back with the flight 20m out, was amazing. Nine times out of ten the defender gives away a free in that situation, or doesn't contest strongly enough to prevent the mark. All class.

He's got a snowball's chance in hell of getting a kick at Fremantle, our delivery will be 1000% better over the next five years.

Much more helpful. Collingwood can hypothesise all they want, but they don't make sense as a destination for Hogan.

Completely agree

This one is a one off in a list of criticisms about ongoing capability. You can probably leave it off the list, really.

I'm leaving my job soon, and I can guarantee you that up until the second I resigned, I was behaving like I'd bought in for the next decade. Imagine he started giving off the impression he was leaving - there would be mayhem down there. He's not stupid.

#freekickhawthorn

Seriously? I missed that, but that's frigging amazing. Love him.

He did break Bernie's nose, didn't he? I could be wrong, but I thought that was the outcome.