Queanbeyan Demon

What did those muppets say that hasn't been said on this forum ad infinitum? Absolutely nothing new. Many on here are much smarter and more astute at observing the game and Melbourne's problems.

Jesse There were rumours on here that we are into Brody Mihocek. Tom Browne says Collingwood are interested in Jesse Hogan. We've all put a lot of time into feeding Cornes' Hogan to Essendon idea. If Hogan can find it in him to you know actually kick a goal maybe we might all start getting off his back. Top 5 paid at the club and we're all satisfied with his output. Don't worry about goals Hoges, just keep taking contested marks on the wing over Baker's head (175cm). Excellent return on investment. If Hogan and Lobb were kicking 40/30 goals each I'd be open to trading Tabs. But they're not. Both seem mentally shot when it comes to kicking at the big sticks. Hogan’s biggest issue is Tabs. You don’t see Kennedy run in front of Darling or Darling run in front of Kennedy. Tabs just gets in every other forwards way. The amount of times he spoils Lobb, bowls over Schultz and cuts off leads is a joke. Hogan has done fu** all for us in two years. He's the one that needs to get out of the way. When was the last time he kicked a goal?? It's starting to look like a pretty bad decision to get Hogan instead of King and Hill. King especially looks like a damn good player for the next 10 years. We'd be moronic to even consider trading him, would be one of the dumbest moves we've ever made if we did. Hogan runs down the ground into space but as he starts to turn Taberner had already thrown the ball onto his boot and straight into the a rms of a Melbourne player. We works his [censored] off on the field, keep him in and the cohesion will build. Melbourne are playing for their season. So expect a walk over. Hogan will be off the leash. Hogan will go off against Melbourne tomorrow, just got a feeling. Everything else Seven changes for Melbourne?? Aren’t they still in the mix for a finals spot? No need to make changes. We are clearly going far better than what I thought we were!!! Yeah the teams lost 3 of their last 4 games, we're flying. Langdon's kicking is still nightmarish, feel bad for Melbourne supporters. Melbourne are coming off a 4 day break. Got embarrassingly beaten by Sydney. Of course they were going to bring changes. But 7? That could be overkill, upset the whole chemistry or the team. Big outs for Melbourne. Angus Brayshaw, Jones, Harmes, Wagner, Brown. Pretty meh Ins. Press maybe tall, but we have a huge chance at a win here. Conca straight to Petracca? Or Oliver perhaps? I'd expect Melbourne to be less complacent but a win for us here is important for morale. Melbourne and finals type conditions do not go together. Been watching a bit of Melbourne lately. May is in some good form so Taberner will have to play a blinder. May does really well to edge the Key forward too far ahead of the drop of the ball, but I think Tabs is a pretty good judge of the flight of the ball and he's got the strength to hold his own. Petracca is on fire lately, will be an interesting matchup whoever he gets. Melbourne very hit and miss. Look like trash against Sydney right now. Feel like we might match up fairly well against them. Melbourne are so crap. Expect them to come out breathing fire. Tabs vs Lever and Hogan vs Day would be great. Tabs should dominate Lever. Both midfield stack up. Tabs, Hogan and Lobb experiment should continue. Either we're too tall, or our crumbers aren't up to it. We need to figure out what's going on in our fwd half.

The Glen Iris thirds in '78 were pretty fragile.

Channel 7 Taylor – it’s about me Bruce – topping up super Darcy – thinks he’s hot Richo – dopey but loveable Brayshaw – it’s all pretend Basil – broke my TV Hammish – he’s a sycophant Carey – hits up target Matthews - threw my remote Daisy – she’s our leader Abbey – prepares her questions Ling – broken record analysis Hodge – needs speech therapy Tim Watson – no new insight Bolton – panders to Sydney Campbell Brown – get him off McAdam – soft spot for Soderstream – has no idea Bennett – who, what, where? Carmody – impossibly conflicted commentator Goddard – need an interpreter Jobe Watson – learning, trying hard Fox Derm – would you shut-up? Hudson – rehearses fake enthusiasm Russell – where’s my mirror? Eddie – what a t$*d Lynch – no new thought Johnson – be more concise Brown – contributes something regularly Ricciuto – dopey conflicted p*^@k Mooney – where my pay-check? Lyon – never nails it Lewis – say what Jordon? Riewoldt – worth listening to Dal Santo – dead air time Pavlich – Perth games only Ben Dixon – boundary too close Montagna – where’s my brain? Papalia – community radio graduate Underwood – can’t warm to Dunstall – past used-by date Healy – FMD King – goes in hard Howard – gee I’m smart

What a great read. Many astute observations. Thanks for getting the conversation going Optimus D. Went to school with Jamie Duursma. He was a very ordinary player back then. So I have enormous respect for him as it must have taken a huge amount of work to play one VFL game . . . let alone carve out a very respectable career. BTW . . . I think he was the first player, and possibly the only one, to play for all three east coast capital city clubs. Quite an achievement indeed! I remember watching Graham Gaunt as a teenager. He carved up the Royal Parade Cheats on the MCG one day in a brilliant display. Overall though . . . our foreign legion has been more miss than hit it must be said.

Clearly we’ve stuffed it up again Osilik. You’re on the money. We don’t need 10 years to observe the career paths of both players to make a call on this one.

Max Gawn just had two weeks off. Has anyone ever had triple figures in hit outs? Do you really want to debut Amartey against Gawn? Everything else Melbourne have won 4 of their last 5. They've got 5 midfielders who are at the top of their games in Petracca, Viney, Gawn, Oliver and Langdon (the last of whom has really come in the last month) as well as Steven May who is a dominant force at FB now. Good test against an experienced, in form side but I don't have us as an impossible bet in this. If we bring our intensity again we can trouble Melbourne who are not consistent or reliable yet in my mind. We will get smacked!! Keep it within 4 goals and that's a win for us. Melbourne are seriously average with their two way running and defensive pressure. Our guys who like to run will have a field day with all the time and space the Dees will afford them. With the Hawks furiously tanking, Pick 3 is in jeopardy. I can’t see us winning another game with the games ahead. It’s the kind of game that the hapless Demons tend to stuff up with monotonous regularity. Melbourne if they are half decent should see this week as a bit of a percentage booster unfortunately for us. Melbourne are not that good, but we're definitely worse. If we stay in the game for the first half I think they'll get scared. Melbourne besides poor performances against the Bulldogs and the Power have been very competitive in most games this year. They are clearly the better side, but imo, are weak as [censored]. Lucky to beat St Kilda and beat up teams worse than themselves. We are worse but are not as weak, so if we can stay in the fight and not get blown away, Melbourne can definitely lose it for us. Melbourne are soft as, just pretenders.. Can definitely win this.. I'd love nothing more if our boys beat them and stuffed up finals for them.. If we're in it at half time (either <12 points down) i reckon we'll win. It is Melbourne after all. Interested to see how Fritsch goes - he might be in Red & White next year.

Magnificent understanding of the obvious there DMMA.

Gawn – turns it over May - best game ever Langdon – pleased he’s ours Oliver – Lets himself down Petracca – Best since who? Salem – for f*&ks sake Rivers – 200 games here Hibberd – Makes me nervous Wagner – Good VFA player Brown – Better than TMac Brayshaw – Do more damage Tomlinson – What’s his ROI? Viney – Try Rugby League Melksham – Doesn’t hurt them Jones – Not the worst Lever – Almost getting there Weideman – Grandfather a p$%*k! McDonald – Compliments May/Lever Spargo – Spargo no go vandenBerg – Try Rugby Union Hannan – Bring Harley in Pickett – Needs a rest

FWIW . . . Frost's stats are certainly no better in 2020 than 2019. As I have said elsewhere over the last two-three years . . . Whorethorn are in a world of pain. They have a very bleak 10 years in front of them. Sam should continue to get a game there for the rest of his career.

I can hear all the naysayers getting on this thread and winging and bitching about alleged form lapse, win-at-all costs, gifting games . . . . . blah, blah, blah. Absolutely pathetic. I hear about club culture and how pathetic our culture is every other day on this forum. The man is an all time great of the club. Will not make a team of the century, but a heart and soul player in an era of absolute clustering f*&%$ing. And club cultures are built around players who are warriors, never take a backward step, never need to be dropped for being late to training. These are called standards. High standards make organisations great. Jones had been our standard bearer for 14 years. For the next 50 years, when the Deez bring impressionable young recruits into the club, we want to be able to point a players like Jones and say . . . . "this is what it means to be a Dee". Loyal, fierce and a great human being. Clubs are built on the exploits of greats who struggled to 300 games. Bourke, Newman, Moore, Breen, Scott, Bartel and of course our own David Neitz. Let's not f#%& ourselves again and leave a guy who is on 290 something games, sacrificed on some misguided belief he doesn't deserve a game. He deserves the games between now and 300 because it's what builds culture, loyalty, leadership and the aura of frères d'armes. Let's not be the club that elevates some wacky, fundamentalist, pop-phycho belief over culture and loyalty. Jones needs to get to 300 games, not for Nathan, but for the long term good of the MFC. (And finally, there are still powerful forces in Sydney that to this day regret leaving 'The Tilt', a similar style of player to Nathan, on 293 games.)

Kane Cornes . . . Doesn’t understand the laws of the game Obsessed with his own image Has a cross hanging in the background Doesn’t watch the games he comments on Contradicts himself every week Vacuous, fatuous and asinine . . . sprouts out the last thought that crosses his mind Complete and absolutely no idea of the 2020 game and the way it’s played

FWIW . . . there is not one post on the St. Kilda boards (that I could find) where their supporters were commenting on the goal. It's as if it didn't happen.

This.

Post game . . . what they are saying about us. Trak There was people during the week defending the decision to take paddy over petracca. Don't tell me it doesn't happen I've seen it more times than I can count. Petracca believes in himself more than any player I've seen in a long time, and that belief that he is can be great and can be the difference between winning and losing makes up for rather significant deficiencies in his skillset. Petracca’s final goal turned like Warnie’s ball to Mike Gatting. May and Pettraca won them the game. Petracca was just an average player up until this year, don't think many saw him exploding into the player he is this season. Saints got it wrong and everyone knew he was going to be the better footballer but they drafted the player they thought would be our full forward for 15 years. As a caterey member of the western bulldogs who is dating a saints supporter. I promised her I would ask her why the hell our CEO Ameet Baines decided on drafting McCartin > Petracca. Can’t believe it. They weren't sure who to take because of our key forward situation and were then spooked by the Tom Boyd deal. Looks horrible in hindsight but still stand by it being the right call for St Kilda at the time. Everything else Melbourne played a very poor man's version of the geelong keepings off/block the corridor style. I hate losing to Melbourne more than any team. And that loss last night was more than losing to that borderline rabble but confirmation that we haven't improved and continue to crumble as soon as the prospect of us taking that step forwards arrises. If melbourne do a typically Melbourne and get ahead of themselves then thats great for us. Dees while hard at it, were not quality tonight. The majority of our goals were from Melbourne mistakes not our own ball movement. I can't believe we lost to f*n melbourne. Disaster. Considering how sh*t we played, it’s funny we were still the better team and lost. Thank god we’re not Melbourne supporters and have to watch that sh*t every week. May is 143 game 28 year old who should be in the prime of his career age wise so you would expect him to win that battle every day of the week. Melbourne set themselves for this game. If they hadn't of got Gawn right physically we scrape home I think. A very ordinary player in Mitch Brown slotting one from 50 on a tight angle. Melbourne deserve some credit for clogging the game up and not allowing us to run and gun. Now the boys have to get on the same flight as melb let that fu** that. Good hope they sing their song all the way back. Hope Oliver kicks the backs of their seats the whole way and Max Gawn puts his seat back on their legs. We've got a bloke named Carlisle. He's kicked a few goals in his time. He is bigger than May, perhaps he could have stood his ground and taken a bit of the focus off King? Melbourne. Trash team dragging us down to their level. We made May look like Rance. Our list is still well below even Melbourne and is a patchwork of crap coving serious structural issues. May with 22 disposals and 9 marks. Gave us an absolute bath. King deserves a rest. It's his first year at AFL level, so he deserves some slack, but he needs a rest. He's been poor for a few weeks, poor decision making and poor marking. He'll get better, but we don't need to try and burn him out like when Melbourne ruined Jack Watts. Gawn not called once for tackling the Saints ruckman all night, thought 2 arms around was a big indicator. King will have nightmares about May. We needed to do something about that match up a lot earlier, pretty much lost us the game. Well done to Melbourne, totally burnt us on the rebound and had our number. Melbourne are sh*t Kents good luck to them. Melbourne have no game plan and beat us.

psychometric tests = largely discredited.

Max Seriously though stop petracca Oliver and Gawn and they have nothing. Marshall record on Gawn is actually good. Ryder won’t win hits outs against Gawn. Gawn doesn’t pose the same threat as precious years. Ryder and Marshall should be able to nullify him or even work him over. He isn’t a physical ruckman. Max Gawn back in is obviously huge for them but he has played the last few times we have beaten them too and we are stronger in the ruck this year. Everything else The brothers going at it in the midfield will be interesting. I assume Zak Jones has the upper hand on Nathan in games won given Sydney would have been a better team over the course of the last few years. Jones gives them a definite psychological lift and a bit more grunt. Tipping Max King to kick 7 and Steven May to punch himself in the head. I love jake carlisle, he always can [censored] off the oppositions fans and is one of us, Bloke will win a norm smith for us if we reach a grand final. Bit of a power play by us to name Kent at ruck rover against the dees. Melbourne are full of heads that you look at and just think they need a punch in the nose. Wow and just read Fritsch missed the start of training and that's why he's dropped. They're in all sorts. Geez they have some very ordinary footballers in that 22. They really drop off after there top 6 or 7 players. Dee's changes benefit us I reckon. Lost a lot of speed and defense. And have a very tall backline. Key will be to keep Lever occupied though as he runs lose when O.McDonald plays and also have Tomlinson play back atm. Mitch Brown not really a bonafide key forward though is he? Think he plays like more of a tall flanker Fritsch our for Melbourne I thought he was the only one that kicked any goals for them They’ve been playing Harmes out of position all years, very weird. Nat Jones is s*** yet he gets midfield minutes instead of Harmes. I reckon harmes is forward mid. Maybe petracca has been the issue. Issue is that they have Brayshaw, Oliver, Jones, Viney, Petracca, Harmes all wanting midfield minutes but arent much good on the outside. Petracca handy fwd but has been killing it in the middle. Tom McDonald dropped is a blow to our chances, he's a liability for them up forward. Fritsch dropped helps us though as he's one of their better forwards. Is harmes one of those Kents that we make look like Leigh Mathews? Goodwin playing a hail mary, line in the sand card at selection by the looks. For the record, James Harmes last 5 games vs St.Kilda = 113 touches and 10 goals. We are his bunnies. WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K???????

Just went from late first round to early first round.

The short answer is “it depends”. On shear football ability, he would easily be in our best 22.

This . . . Almost seven completed years into a rebuild and we have two finals wins to our name with a pretty good list. I must be missing sometime obviously.

I must admit having thought the same thing last year. I assumed he had injury or 'other' problems for there to be such a low, industry-wide, interest in him. Inexplicable and unexplainable.

Five years on $600,000? I'd love his job please.

Post game Can’t believe the ruck tactic didn’t hurt us. Just shows how poor Preuss is, thank god Gawn wasn’t ready to come back. He’d have made us pay. Melbourne are so sh*t. Jeez our 2018 draft is looking better by the day. Thought it was going to be an arm wrestle for 4 quarters but serious credit to Bevo on out coaching Melbourne in the second half. Like the look of Preuss. He could play first ruck for us. English didn’t play in the middle for the entire second half. When Bevo was interviewed at half time on Fox you could tell he was ready to get into the rooms and sort some things out. Bevo is still on track for a flag from 8th on his resume. We are a better team than Melbourne even though they look great on paper. Lipinski had the most pressure applied to his touches and went at 90 something percent, best against a Melb player was Trac and he went at 50 percent. I am still a Gardner-loather. Did some ok things but nearly gave Weiderman and McDonald their Majak medals. Fortunately for us if there is one side worse than us at butchering The ball and making poor decisions, it’s Melbourne.

That's what I would have thought. But have you checked the property prices in Footscray lately?