Demon Dynasty

Very much this. So many "unforced errors" every week. We gift a general advantage to our opponents in most games from week to week in this area, even when we get clear and aren't being directly pressured in a physical sense. There were at least 5 clangers/unforced errors that i witnessed just in the 1st quarter on Saturday, where players were under no immediate physical pressure. Albeit they were no doubt under a little perceived pressure. But you would think some perceived pressure would be standard fair in most games other than maybe against GWS and GCS. Obviously more intense against the top 5 or 6, hence you would expect the disposal efficiency/option decision making skills to drop etc. No one is perfect under any sort of intense pressure...and not expecting them to be. Can't help but admire yesterday's match. If any player ever needed an eye opener/leg up... i reckon i would just keep watching yesterday over and over and over....until things start to sink in lol. I realise we're a long way behind and lacking anywhere near the skill level/talent & experience in these 2 teams atm but still....why not aim high.

Digging a dirty great hole so that those who cant or dont wanna climb the next level can stay at base and go crap in it?

Was hardly a normal "omission" event mono so i don't think it's really comparable to a standard omission in other weeks. Was he listed as an emergency? Maybe he had no choice Could be wrong but seem to recall he was put through a hit out while over there post start of the match.

You better believe it. This is a kill or be killed business....both on and off the field. Only the strong will survive and prosper

Damn sweet post Jungle. Would like to see beamer get a big shaking down by the coach and to be asked the question before we just caste him aside though. Still think there's some upside with the big fella. But the Magner, Jones, Couch combo (with beamer rotating through too) just might be the roots we can build a gun team around, with Jay coming in for the icing from next year. And yep....a few (or even just one) classy outside line breakers and one small classy forward are desperately needed. Time for Martin to take over the main ruck duties through the middle.

Play him in the forward line at Casey for the next 8 to 10 matches. If he becomes a regular crumbing goal kicker and shows something amazing..... maybe he gets a look in towards the end of this season to see what he has, if anything. If he doesn't....it's trade/delist time IMO. Has shown nothing anywhere else on the ground until now and this is the only area i can see that he just might offer us something. Would have to harden up 10 fold though and learn how to chase down and tackle. Soft as butter at this point (not alone) and this club is already severely short of warriors who yearn for hard nosed never- say-die footy.

Agree. In the short term, this is an AFL matter, not an Eddie matter. Thanks for the offer mate but no thanks. I suspect that deep down some within the footy world might be a little jealous of our boy Jim getting the magnificent recognition and send off that he did. Don't fool yourselves, Acker may not be alone in this. Watch your back Demons....watch your back. As for new major sponsors, there's no other AFL club that gets as much publicity for it's off field dramas than us on such a regular basis ... and i'm betting there's more than one decent sponsor out their willing to take us on. They'll get some pretty good bang for their buck. We'll be taking it up to the rest of the comp, including Eddie's mob, within 2 to 3 seasons both on and off the field i reckon. Keep the faith fellow demonoids B)

Yep. He's one of the few who wont lay down and gives it everything pretty much every week, even when we're getting hammered like yesterday. Hopefully Magner can keep up this level and improve gradually as well. Add Couch in here if he comes on a little in the next year or so. You never know. If we're gonna turn our fortunes around it has to start from the middle clearances and spread. However, i'm not convinced our list is overloaded with gifted players as stated in your last line. Far from it really. Free agency might be just the tonic needed for our sub par list at this point. A few new sponsors might be helpful before it kicks in though....

Hope Tappy gets a good hit out. Will need him in next week all going well

Kevin would probably have stuck his hand up for the PR component too.....How much is CS on again?

No coach would have either i would bet. Tough entry for Neeld. At least we've got everything in place within the FD, or appear to, to find something in the next 2 to 3 seasons. A long haul ahead for all of us.

I think you might finally have your wish OD....i doubt he'll be put forward again unless he grows an extra leg or something. Might not be alone either.

We haven't done this on a consistent basis since 2000 that i can recall. And prior to that it would probably be 1994 under Balme with massive gap years in between. We are a mile behind AFL standard now in this (and many other skill areas). This is a hangover from the Bailey era and such a basic blunder that many of our players make week in and week out. The opposition must rub their hands together at the thought of playing us the next week. No wonder they're so eager at the start of every match and throughout. Mentally we're so far behind them as they're expecting this crap and we rarely let them down. We just aren't able to man up or play accountable footy for extended periods (when we don't have the ball or it's in dispute) during a quarter against mediocre opposition teams or better. At this point i think we'd even struggle against the 2 new entrants in this area. If you can't run,spread and carry in waves, break lines, stream down the ground with creative precise skillful play off HB or through the middle for a good percentage of each quarter when you gain possession, then you better be prepared to play tough, man on man bang in footy and pressure/harrass the hell out of the ball carrier and be accountable, when the ball is lost to the opposition or in dispute, in order to get it back and at least hack it forward without the classy clearance/outlet work. We do neither of these very well (in general) at this point. There are exceptions but just not enough cattle that are either willing or possibly capable. Maybe this is a cattle factor, but i've seen some pretty average teams over the years punch above their weight 'on occasions' to achieve some pretty amazing performances and upsets playing accountable man on man footy. When was the last time we upset a quality top line opponent when we were expected to get soundly beaten? It's this sort of thing that can turn a looming disastrous season around. Even if you lose making that effort, sometimes the previous weeks effort and momentum was the spark for the win or wins in the weeks to come. Where the hell is the spark boys....where's the fire?????????? You mean they played accountable man on man footy for much of the game through the middle and our HF line, when they didn't have the ball, and pressured the ball carrier with intensity? How about we also isolate him for a time and allow him to contest one out, changing up once in a while?? Lucifer forbid we should try something different to FIND A WAY.

Just the Eagles total number of games played....and their "average games played". Although the word just is probably not a good term given it's a fair jump from the original figure

Oops.... after your comment WYL i though i better check total games played and the related average. I had an incorrect formula sitting in the Eagles column. Ours remains as is (unfortunately lol) but you might want to reconsider that upstairs bit a tad lol. Thanks for prodding me though. Always pays to double check your formulas once in a while P.S. On a lighter note (pardon the pun) the previous team 'games average' i had in their for the Eagles was their average weight lol

I disagree. We don't have much speed or line breaking options in this team as it is. He needs to put in over 4 quarters, i would hope off the HB line and play the game of his life if we're to have any chance of keeping it under 12 goals i reckon. And when he's not running his guts out off HB then he should be resting in the forward line to try and create some crumbing/goal scoring opportunities there if at all possible. No genuine small forward in this team which is nothing new for us i realise.

West Coast vs Melbourne Round 2, 2012 – Team Stats Total games played Eagles - 2,199 Demons – 1,537 Games Average Eagles - 100 Demons – 70 Height Average Eagles - 188cm Demons – 189cm Weight Average Eagles - 89kg Demons – 89kg Number of players by category 0-49 Games Eagles - 5 / 23 (number of players/average games played) Demons - 8 / 25 50-99 Games Eagles - 9 / 72 Demons - 9 / 71 100+ Games Eagles – 8 / 179 Demons - 5 / 140 Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Bennell in for Tynan/Davey....hmmm....ok. Green shouldn't be in on last weeks performance. Weak decision IMO both from a "strong statement" point of view as well as strategically. We're now overloaded with medium sized forwards with Dunn & Petterd in. Would have been a strong message here to the established boys....."blind faith" is out as per Neeldy's comments. Harsh, but thats the way it is at Demonland now boys. Oh well. There goes that opportunity. Lost Moloney with no mid field replacement. Couch was the obvious one after racking up the most number of possessions against Coburg last week. To me that's how you put pressure on the existing mid-field crew as well. Bring in a likely replacement who's earned it and let him. Also means the regular (Beamer) might have to come back through Casey and show he's hitting some decent form/fitness himself before he just rolls back in (another strong statement). Blease i would have kept for one more game (Green out) and tell him he has this week to run his ass off from the HB line, break some lines and find some hit ups AND work his ass off going the other way when we lose possession (along with others of course)....otherwise he'll be spending the early winter out Casey Fields way. By bringing Sellar in and not bumping Rivers, we're now slightly overweight mid sized to tallish backs as well, none of them having a real change/turn of pace or decent line breaking capability other than maybe Bennell IF he's given the ball often enough and in space. Unlikely given the quality of the opposition and Bennell just doesn't work hard enough to get himself to enough contests IMO after his initial speedy effort. Although that's based on what i've seen last year. happy to see what his offering this year and hopefully there's improvement here. I realise we have to cover Lynch as well but I think Sellar, Frawley, Martin & Jamar were enough to run with the Eagles talls here. No need for Rivers in this line up. The backline now looks EXTRA slow to me. In addition, Sellar has the height and build advantage over Rivers to better match up against a likely heavy build/tall like Lynch. Good luck to all the boys. They're gonna need it. Lets hope they all crack in and give us something regardless of the scoreline!

Imagine what we could do with these two on the park together.... Old Dee would have a fit

Yeh....the war office bought one for son on Saturday...her account too .... bracing myself

They might wanna Watch their Energy levels a little

I reckon Roost It must be single if he reckons the bleating on here is bad. I should introduce him to the war office

Very much so. Innocent unless proven otherwise. We have no idea how the rumour started at this point or whether there was even a leak by one of our players, let alone Davey. Given his recent form, it's very hard to take anything MisFed says as even remotely close to the truth anymore. However, he will be a blight on the AFL's indigenous relationships for as long as he is retained in his current position. The way things are heading at this point, i don't think we'll ever know the full story. The AFL (led by Vlad) is preferring this one to just blow over and is happy to let it go as probably a misconstrued comment or leak by a MFC player, whoever that was. And as of this morning, we've put the shutters up. It's now back to business for the FD and boys. Fingers crossed that there was no snitch at our end. If there wasn't, i suspect we'll see us back on track within a few weeks. If there was, and it was someone within the playing group....then who knows what lays ahead. Never a dull moment at the MFC lol

good to see that you're still "Buying In" OD ... cheers mate

Listened to presser. 1. Surprised there was no back up ....McLardy? Schwab? Aren't we supposed to be a club/team and stick? 2. MN believes it's done and dusted is a worry. The press will not leave this alone from here. It will just grow and fester until they get the full story, especially the who (source). Hope MN and the whole MFC, including every player, are ready to bunker down if he's sticking with that decision. 3. The AFL may have put the heavy on some of the brass at the MFC.... and sadly we've rolled over like a dog in poo