Demon Dynasty

Thank goodness. Hopefully that means we are closer to locking up the Frostmeister. No more defenders until 2020 trade period pls.

I think FITB meant gettable as in someone else getting him AF

This is / was one of the key issues this season plus the fact that we had a forward line pretty much incapable of getting separation on their opponents often enough to present a regular target (incentive to kick to or kick to favoured side where player can run onto the ball). It is a dual edged sword which only works if both sides are sharp and you have clever/classy ball users coming from mid field and beyond to deliver. Outside of Big Maxy, Tracc on odd occasions, Melk and the occasional decent pass from the usual bombing mids, we just don't have many quality ball users outside of 50 who are capable of consistently finding targets or kicking beautifully weighted kicks to the favoured side. Having said that you also need the occasional big pack mark around the hot zone inside 50 from occasional big bombs and/or chaos worm burners to mix it up. However even this wont work as well if other forwards aren't playing their role and leading their defenders away from that zone/contest. How often do we lament other teams doing this against us yet we are often left complaining about how crowded our forward line is. We don't really have that KF pack marking impact option either. Then there's the lack of quality smalls to feed off that latter situation (front and square or out the back) when the pack mark isn't taken and the ball spills free. As many have said and i've said so often over the past year or more, our list is completely out of wack with too much emphasis on slow plodding 'see-ball-get ball' mids. The mix on this list needs a major overhaul. I would anticipate an improvement / bounce back off a very low base next season but might take three to five seasons at the trade table before we start seeing a serious phoenix type rise with regular finals appearances & cred.

Weid and Oscar were both big favs of Macca. Dunn's career (for us) was cut short as a result of the Oscar preference. Hopefully all that nonsense of "the next big thing" (or the earlier classic "youth policy" - Schwab) left with him and those within the FD are now basing their selection decisions on relevant qualitative and quantitative performance measures, game day results and the players' ability to carry out the roles being asked of them. We might get the mix / culture within the FD right at some point ....hopefully sooner than later.

Regardless of how you interpret it (not replacing staff who have left (and they have) and not replacing those who've been chopped (i know of at least one) there have been cuts within MFC's admin post end of season.

Welcome aboard the peace train KD! P.S. apologies for the horrid spelling (*lessens) and incorrect wording (*worm burner) on my last post up there minions ☝?...written in a big rush.

Bump...keeper for all of the above and it will send a terrible signal to the rest of the group when your most improved player in a season doesn't get the respect he should at the contract table. Jnr. Mac ghost will rear it's ugly head if not careful..... "Culture". The Hawks aren't silly. Clarko will play Frostmeister between the arcs and let him launch inside 50. The Hawks, like the Tiges, don't care that much as to how its delivered as long as its a tumble punt work burner "NO bombing" where possible. Lessons the impact of the interceptors like Mcgovern etc. Frost can also go with the likes of Ben Brown where others wont be able to (see Rooeys comments about this on SEN). If we lose him then Ben (and similar types....see Buddy in Rnd 4 where Frosty was praised for his shut down role!) get a free ticket whenever we play them. Don't be silly Goody....lock him away mate.

Never let the facts get in the way of a large paper bag WB. This is Carltank we are talking about.

Probably heading to the Swans. Not saying im interested so no shooting!... https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-11/future-up-in-the-air-as-star-bomber-joe-daniher-considers-options

Bar selling the farm in another 'Lever' type deal i'm happy to disagree on that one Macca. Under a different regime with a recognised respected coach after a few years of playing finals (and success in at least one of those appearances)...sure. At this stage we need to replace about eight to twelve on the current list over the next few years and there's no way we will be able to replace with imported A graders. Even clubs at the top would struggle doing so with that sort of clean out. Need to be realistic and build a camp first, then top up later with the odd A graders where posible. Alot more likely if we can work our way up the ladder and become a half decent destination club. No rediculous sell out required on the trades either.

Macca and yourself have covered this nicely to some extent below. Agree with the first part but Roos is no longer here. We wont be getting A graders (multiple or probably even one under Goodwin). This is the answer but the likes of those five need to come into the team plus two to three more over the period of a few seasons and play 'together' for at least the next 5 or so to make a difference and change the culture permanently. Roos was on the right track. He just never got them all in at once or enough of them, to make a permanent change to the culture. Import B+ graders (wont get better under Goodwin) from clubs with ongoing success based culture until we get to base camp. Base camp = successive and successful finals appearances (two or three) aka Geelong/Hawks/Tigers/Pies/Eagles. Only recruit mature age players still in their prime (24ish to 27ish) B plus from known success based clubs where you know the disciplines/ structures / professionalism and work ethic is already built in. Provided they bring what we need, including AFL level kicking standards as a base minimum and are filling a required role. Once you hit base camp, with present coach or other (i suspect we will need other eg; Lyon or similar respected coach with runs on the board), you then top up with occasional A grader and fill the bottom rungs with clever drafting / strong development to take us to the summit with a mix of A / B plus graders and a few talented rookies. Two of those A graders should be internal IF still there ie; Big M & Clarry (with some adjustments and being well over his two shoulder opps from last season).

The Hawks rarely trade away a loss 39. Whatever they are offering it will more than likely end up being a less than satisfactory tainted morsel past it's use by or a known (but unbeknown to the MFC) NQR option. It won't we Gunston and i doubt they will compensate effectively with picks either. Zero sum loss all the way. Just get him signed and locked away on decent but but not rediculous coin on say a 2 plus 1 (trigger).

Thank goodness O-Mac is locked away!

Imagine this team with no Frosty. About the only player we have with a bit of X factor about him and who i look forward to watching now. Heart in mouth stuff but at least he makes it interesting.

Combo of a 2019 shocker & the Steven May effect?...

This link works for me... https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tomlinson-poised-to-be-a-demon-20190909-p52pln.html

So far the club has gone with two 'feel good' puff pieces to one departure (Jennings & Rawlings). Following this KK coverage we have now had two feel good puff pieces since Rawlings went. Merely coincidence? ?

So far the club has gone with two 'feel good' puff pieces to one departure (Jennings & Rawlings). We have now had two feel good puff pieces since Rawlings went ?

That's enough to fill the Titanic on it's maiden voyage TK...no more please!

I'm almost certain you left out the "e" in between the "c" and the "o" there Praha.

Absolutely tragic. Condolences and regards to Chip & family. Was a great character on radio and him and the boys on MMM footy were a crazy listen for a few years. Him & Dunstall also including 350+ episodes of the Bounce on fox. Pretty sure he was solid mates with plugger as well. Hopefully gone to join his Saintly kin & brothers somewhere better. Way too soon. R.I.P. Spud.

Viney won't be going while Josh is still in the house. Both are very good mates. It will either be both or neither and i can't see both going. If they go they would probably be going with Goody also. Pert & Co. likely to see that option as too much unrest in a short space of time anyway even if it had or has been mooted (Josh + Viney...not Goody)

You've never seen us go down the wrong rabbit hole before Dr.?

Haha touche' MR. Possibly an old recording of the Sheedy family & friends with Vlad as back up?

Serious? Thankfully i haven"t run into that one. Was never a big regular but SEN pretty much lost me once Hutchy took the reigns. Station's become a mouthpiece for Gil & Co.