Jordie_tackles

Did i mention Watts this is a NIK NAT thread.....sorry for suggesting he isnt going to be "one of the greatest players ever to play AFL" lol

When was his last match winning performance? i like him too but i think his good games get hyped so they dont focus on his other average games personally. edit obviously played well last night

What you seem to not realise is that his role changed at this exact time, he started out playing inside like he was made to do, racking up 30's ect then i think he got a bit more respect from the opposition, and now he players defensive roles on strong opposition players, If he isnt following the ball then he cant get high 20's ect

His inside work is as good or better than most of the names you mentioned, he just inst being played inside anymore. I would rather him inside than Sylvia, Trengove and Mckenzie atm.

Apparently being sited for using pressure points on the defender brown in one of there wrestles.......damn It is on the herald sun page, but the link seems to go to anotehr article, shows a pretty damning photo

Honestly think if we can get them to sign Cloke for 800K over 5 we will literally double whatever they offer Sidebottom, they will be hoping to pay him 300K i would imagine as he is still only 21......and they need to manage numbers alot more, maybe going upto 500K in a 3rd year ect. I would be pretty happy to pay 500-600K for Sidebottom, only thing is it would take pick 5 or so, still probably worth it Pick 12 and Sylvia?

People including myself were excitied by Garland last week, but this week he was far less effective. Imo He played so much like the Ricky Petterd of 09/10 against the Dons, WE NEED RICKY BOBBY BACK. He need him fit, and confident because he would be the perfect foil under Clark imo, We have Howe, Petterd, Dunn and Bate and can barely find a medium forward between them wtf? in Howes defence he is playing moreon a wing, and kicked 2 goals today is welcome back, i have liked his season, but also liked him playing 3rd tall last year.... thoughts?

Yeah and when clubs only have the one Gorrilla forward it might release Frawley to run off the half back.

Tapscott playing hard is good, but i dont agree that pusing a player into the dugout is fair play, dont want to sound like a wuss ect but could he honestly have put Maxwell out for a long while, i dislike Maxwell with a passion but players shouldnt be trying to push each other into fences ect could really damage there heads ect imo, dont want it to be like the NFL where coaches gave there players contracts and incentives to injure opposition stars

The thing is he runs hard and into space which is half the battle, we got flogged in the first term largely due to not having players in space and in turn time to use the ball, Cale offers this. His kicking is definite worry but i hold out that he will turn it around, people saying delist after 4 years he is only 22.....and we arnt great at providing options this is the most frustrating part of our game. See endless number of Collingwood players leading hard, sprinting ect for an option we never ever have that, Collinwood played with so much space it wasnt funny

He wasnt subbed can say it is a big deal...... Was good and bad like usual, if Neeld can get him to click for a few hole games he could turn it all around

Mate its 2012, you dont go out to intentionally injure any player, and if thats what you think well then you are still stuck in the 80's, terribly poor form. Be hard, be tough but dont be a tool.......Tapscott was crossing the line today and many neutral commentators thought he showed poor form. I agree with them.

I call it dumb, giving away frees and 50's and looking like your intention is to hurt opposition players and not just sore i mean injure the opposition is not on.

Tapscott playing like a bit of a thug bth to clarify the initial incident then one other i counted and that last blatant late contact on MAxwell pushing him into the bench.....not a great look

Garland is playing like classic Petterd...... circa 09/10 when he was on fire.......this is how we want Petterd to play but he just cant find it atm, and now Garland has....well for one game haha

I dont know if it was in the other thread but i saw Malthouse quoted as saying Cloke is the first on and last off at training, doing extra kicking training ect, he literally had to be stopped. I am for Cloke soley because we have excessive cap space, or should do anyway with our list as compared to a top 4 team, we should have money to throw at someone and if we dont then it is wasted imo? who else will get it? Dunn? Bate? Ideally we will get a good mid and forward but getting one is hard enough

Jack has apparently been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, according to seven news just now, spent 2 days in hospital but the club will look into a strategy to manage this along with his career. I imagine thsi will be pretty simple to work arround? Anyone got any specialisation in this area?

YES?

People saying they want Mids, very few of the mids on offer would be worth it imo, Goddard, Mitchell ect wont come as they can win a premiership. If Cloke is available we have the cash so sign him, we will get 3 top 12 mids this draft, and maybe even a mature age Magner type WIN

watching tonight and i see alot of Harry Taylor in Mcdonald personally. Frawley can play the Scarlett role and Mcdonald takes a more lock down role imo

Give the bloke a bit more credit than that mate, he tries just as hard as anyone, he is very open about how proud he is as player and MFC person

Its a nice thoughts but neither of them have a say in the running of the FD, contracts and recruiting will be upto Neeld, Viney and Harrington atm and a few others. Do love that Cloke and Clark are exactly what the dockers need though

Or we could just take there good young players....... What a day for BF to be down with maintenance if these rumours are true

small forwards dont win you finals though, just ask carlscum

I think Sidebottom and beams are out of contract this year