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Only behind Jones and Olver as our best extractor. Often when he gets holding the ball its because he has got in it in heavy traffic and rather than hold on to it tries to release it. When he does so successfully he often triggers a scoring chain. Frustrating or not was unquestionably one of our better players today. I look forward to dong an AFL stats pro review

Yep spot on. We were running on fumes. I wonder if we have put in a big training block with a view to tapering and peaking come finals time as we have struggled to run out a few games now. The way footy is played ATM it is going to be a very long season. Th fittest side might well win this years's flag.

Good thing i have live pass then. Ive already watcged every one if his game since the start of 2017. Beautiful stuff. Seems you misunderstood me again ?

I haven't got my email with code as of yet. Have others still not got theirs?

Haven't done form for today (as i have said my Autumn has finished) so no best bets but my thoughts on today's group races based on recollection of the exposed form of the horses through Autumn. You have to give Qualista a good chance today. Like Savacool, a horse that always runs well. Gets out in front and challenges other horses to catch it and i've said before on this thread i really like good horses that sit on the speed. Similarly Sprightly Lass is terrific race horse that does not know how to run a bad race. Looks good value i reckon. Desert Lashes will surely test it though. A good horse. I backed Savapinski last start and it looks to deserve favoritism. But perhaps a little short? I backed Jester Halo and odds last start and it blundered the start, which is always poor but worse when it is a horse that likes to sit on the speed. Came home against the pattern for a fighting 4th and if it gets away allright today has to be chance. Has 3.5kg pull in the weights from Savapinski and due a win. Coming Through is really good horse and deserves favoritism in the Hollindale i would have thought but i would not be shocked if Oregon Day runs a bold race. Has been there or thereabouts this Autumn in four group races without winning (three very close seconds and last start 2.9 length 4th to Alizee). At each way odds.

Apologies. Posted the thread on my phone (on the train) so couldn't put link. It also explains my spelling issues. I had an update and since then for the life of me cannot get spell check back. it is actually hard to find on the afl.com site. On the menu on the main page running across the top is tab labelled stats. Click that and you will see this tab: You then click on the watch button Here is direct link:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/ The above is from the PC site. You can find it on the app for mobile and tablets but it was all but unusable whn i tried it on my tablet. too much data and video options.

Goodwin mentioned continuity. He might havw avoided the axe to enure some continuity in the team. He and harmes both need good games wirh viney and salem both back for gc (hopefully).

I start very few threads, in fact i think this is probably only my 2nd or 3rd in my time on DL. But i am really excited about a new innovation on afl.com called stats pro. Well to be precise excited about the video element where you can watch the edited video of every players involvements for each game from the start of 2017. The involvements match the stats collected on afl stats pro, so spoils, one percenters, score involvements, frees against, kicks, marks, clangers etc. You can watch every involvement or just highlights. But you can also select specific involvements (which are often part of clusters of involvements). Unfortunately it is only for telstra mobile customers who have live pass but i wanted to flag it those who have live pass. It is brilliant and a fascinating way to analyse how individual players perform. Genuinely new way to absorb the game and will definetley allow viewrs to assess players more objectively. Ive watched the video for about 8 of the players from the bombers game. Addictive. One player that was interesting was tyson. His game was much better than i haf thought it was. Got caught a couple of times and a couple of clangers but jeez he was involved in alot of good clearances and scoring chains. Weideman was another whise game was better than i had thought (albeit still not fantastic). He looks quite a natural ruck man. Has anyone used this yet?

This confirms my confirmation bias that jnr has a small problem with comprehension.

Fell free to not reply to this query Drunkn, and fully understand [censored] not cool to reveal any potentially inside sensitive information about the club, but in a general sense do you have a sense of how 'the vibe' is at both the MFC and Casey among the players, and if so how would you describe it?

Thanks Ditcha, I have been waiting for this - and so has my son - needs school shoes (he wears black NB runners)!

Maybe mix it up. For example you could do the best 22 from the 70's, or the best 22 of a team of players recruited to Melbourne or the bets 22 from our premierships or what about our best 22 of NQRs and delisted players since 2000 (so many to choose from!)?

I liked drunkn's vfl analysis. Very balanced and informative. Good idea andy for it to be regular thing if he is up for it.

Agree. Close to my fav acadaca song and it is plain rude to cut it so short. we should protest!

Oscar must be approaching afl standard.....

and pay packet

I don't really care but we were tipped by many pre season to be a top 4 chance and the pies to struggle to make the 8. The response has to be seen in that context.

Starting to look more settled. And the back six looking more in sync. i would'nt say he wad outstanding against ess gnf (made too many kicking errors) but it certainly was his best game for us. I suspect erhiad suits him as like adelaide oval the pockets are smaller than rhe g His kicking is a worry and i fear won't improve much as he has a poor technique. But you can see how well he reads the ball and i look forward to him going up a level from here on in.

The pools will be biggest in the oaks and the Hollindale. And i reckon sprints can sometimes throw up a bolter because bad luck can scupper a favorites chances where at longer distances horses can better recover from a bad start, tricky barrier, check or get out of a pocket (sometimes). Also i like the big field in both races as sometimes in such races (particularly in Autumn i reckon) you can draw a line through many of the horses and there are usually on a handful of legitimate chances of winning. Not a bad race the Hollindale, but i would be leaning to the Oaks, mainly because the Morphetville track races predictably, is usually good and gives all runners their chance. Always wary of regional tracks like Gold Coast. If we go the Oasks i'll jump early and take Savacool. A terrific win last start and i just love horses that have that will to win as you always get a good sight. Six starts for 3 win and 3 seconds is testament to that spirit.

Great.Yep, his tackling was scary. In the post Richmond era forward pressure is king and he is perfect for it.

Just watched Mitch's involvements on stats pro. He was really influential and involved in a number of goals. A terrific game. I have to say i wish he had played in the tiger's game. His ferocity would have been valuable as would have been ability to kick a goal. Perhaps could you ask about the tigers game and missing out if it seems appropriate.

I am loving the stats pro tool on AFL.com. Fantastic innovation. Watched Hannan's involvements and he was really influential. They have video of every time a player is involved in the play - whether that be free kick against, a spoil, a marking contest, goals, one on ones, one per-centers, kicks, etc etc. Had to laugh. Oscars package didn't include the Smith goal, presumably because it wasn't defined as an involvement. But apparently Smiths's goals was Oscar's fault.

Agree. The third man in rule is a no brainer. Most, but not all of the time, it is clear who the third player in is. If there are only two players scrapping for the ball it is really clear who is actually holding it in (so you might even get a free paid against the second player in, who so often is the one trapping the ball in). The ball would usually come free, so less stoppages. And crucially it isnt really a major change to how footy is played.

Good post, with some excellent points, one being that it will be nigh on impossible to engineer one on one battles, particularly of the marking variety.

Funny you should say that. I heard a fella on SEN radio yesterday arvo (a professor of biomechanics or some such) that has been advising the AFL for years on issues related to interchange numbers and a fatigue. Really interesting. He made the point that with all the congestion and the ball being trapped in forward lines players are in fact resting on the ground more now than when the interchange cap first came in. He also mad the point that the fitness of the players has out paced the impact of reduced interchanges. He said he would go to 40 but cautioned that the impact of going to 40 in terms of players fatigue would be short lived. I actually don't mind the congestion and intensity.