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I'm interested in Kavanagh. He's got a bit of pace and a bit of class. Not a lot of both but a bit. Thought he would have found a home already. Maybe there is a work ethic issue? Wouldn't be disappointed if he finds his way to us

Latest from Brett Anderson: Parish no lock at 3. Thinks we are looking heavily at Curnow 7 apparently we are looking at Collins (Curnow - Collins double) Francis might make it to Adelaide at pick 9 as Essendon arent too keen on taking him. Thinking that Parish makes it to them and they pick up one of Curnow or Weiderman. Balic wont be taken at 7 I just dont see why we need Collins. He is great, but that means we are thinking that one of Frost, McDonald or McDonald will be a key forward.

46 and 50 (well 39 and 42?) There are a few names I like here: Greg Clark, Nick O'Kearney, Sam Skinner, Nash Holmes and Hisham Kerbatieh. Clark had a shocking year compared to his 2014. I dont know if it was the Bont comparisons, being captain in a weak WA side, or just wasnt ready for top age, he went from being a top 10 bolter to a mid 50's pick. He has the talent and the leadership. At pick 39-46 it is low risk high reward. O'Kearney is so unlucky. He is an absolute possession jet but being in a weak Metro side exposed his disposal. Again, he looked like a first round pick and has now seen him slide right down to the bottom of the second round. I'd like to think he doesn't get to us, but if he is there he is another ANB ready to take. Skinner - Promising KPP who really didnt play this year due to injury. These ones tend to see their way to the Rookie draft but in a weak draft he might find himself taken on talent and character alone. Worth the late pick if we dont get a tall in the first 7. Homes - big love for this guy. The grunt of the VC team and I loved his work with Parish, Tucker and Matheson. If he played for Metro I think there would be more love on draft boards and he would have had more of the ball and more time in the centre square. Good for a depth midfielder. Kerbatieh - remember before we were obsessed with Daniel Rioli we loved this guy. He is still around and had a good, solid season. Needs work but he is a game changer and could be a 10 year small forward. low risk high reward. All in all if I had a choice of 2 I'd want Clark and O'Kearney, but in terms of needs (and most likely to be there) I'd say Skinner and Kerbatieh. Gregory Clark (WA – MID) Height: 193cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 24/05/1997 Recruited from: Subiaco Profile: Promising tall running midfielder. Nicholas O’Kearney (VIC – MID) Height: 180cm, Weight: 71kg, DOB: 13/02/1997 Recruited from: Calder Cannons Profile: High production midfielder. Sam Skinner (VIC – KPP) Height: 197cm, Weight: 96kg, DOB: 29/06/1997 Recruited from: Gippsland Power Profile: Promising key position player who missed much of this season hurt. Nash Holmes - VC (180.0 cm, 74.0 kg - Inside Midfielder) Hisham Kerbatieh (VIC – FWD) Height: 177cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB: 16/05/1997 Recruited from: Calder Cannons Profile: Talented small forward with a long kick.

Ok Demonlad - lets tango. 1. Carlton - Weitering - future captain and 10-15 year player. Lock and load. 2. Brisbane - Schache - not going to want to come home. He is their forward of the future. 3. Sydney - Mills - bid from Melbourne. We want him like we wanted Heeney. 4. Melbourne - Parish - you dont move heaven and earth to get to pick 3 for someone who might be there at 6 5. GWS - Hopper - bid from Essendon - He is a big bodied midfielder who would be perfect for the Dons. Suckers. 6. GWS - Kennedy - bid from Essendon - see above. 7. Essendon - Francis - Really great reader of the play. Will fill in a hole down back for the Dons to allow Hooker to go forward so with 8 they will take 8. Essendon - Curnow - The more I think about it, the more I don't see this young man lasting to us. The Dons have key position players and they arent planning to be down the ladder for a second time around. Curnow is a game winner, and will compliment Hooker and Danniher. 9. Gold Coast - Mileara - His silk will appeal to GC who have some great inside mids who can feed it out to him on the wing. 10. Melbourne - Weiderman - I think this is high, but we have a clear plan in place. This completes our spine and allows us to bring in the players around them. 11. Carlton - Matherson - They will look for a partner for Cripps in here and then build the talls with their next picks. 12. Adelaide - Balic - There is class here and I think that might work out quite well for them. 13. Brisbane - Hipwood - bid from Carlton - they'll want to complement Weitering at the other end of the ground but he is all Brissy's 14. Carlton - McKay - Although I will change this in a week or two to say Collins, I think that this is what they will be feeling right now. 15. Brisbane - Keays - bid from Richmond. 16. Richmond - Ah Chee - they will be drawn in to the x-factor 17. Adelaide - Bonner - he wont go back to Mogg's creek 18. St Kilda - Tucker - they will be laughing all the way to the bank when they still get an outside mid at pick 14 (18) 19. Sydney - Dunkley - bid from Hawthorn - if he nominates. Hasn't yet. If he doesn't he's a Hawk. 20. Hawthorn - Burton - There is no risk taking him here and if he gets everything right we will be [censored] the Hawks got him so low. For the record, I think that Weiderman will drop to us. If not Curnow. I cant see a way that Essendon takes them both considering that they will have Heppell and thats it in 2 years time.

He ran during the combine with no issues. Hasnt played football since the injury though. Also someone said in the other thread he wasnt a Collingwood supporter.

No academy pick this year for the Suns. I think that we will delist Hunt and re-rookie and bring up Harmes in his spot. In terms of 46 and 50 I'd love Fiorini and Nguyen but I'd also like to see Sam Skinner (KPD) and Nash Holmes (inside mid with speed) come into calculations as well.

"He tests sub 2.80 [20 metres]. Given his basketball , hes got good speed, agility and vertical leaping. Hes also got a solid endurance base, he said." This made me think, hmm thats fast: 20m sprint 2015 Alex Morgan - 2.88 seconds Kurt Mutimer - 2.88 Liam Jeffs - 2.89 Daniel Rioli - 2.89 Thomas Glen - 2.90 Declan Moutford - 2.90 Callum Moore - 2.91 David Cuningham - 2.91 Hisham Kerbatieh - 2.94 Jordan Snadden - 2.94 2014 20 metre sprint results (sec) Marvin Baynham 2.81 Oleg Markov 2.87 Jarrod Pickett 2.87 Reece McKenzie 2.87 Connor Menadue 2.88 Nakia Cockatoo 2.90 Ed Langdon 2.92 Paddy Brophy 2.93 Conor McKenna 2.93 Nathan Drummond 2.93 Best at the combine of all time: Top Combine performances (seconds) Joel Wilkinson 2.75 2010 Jonathan Marsh 2.78 2013 Danyle Pearce 2.79 2004 Ashley Smith 2.80 2008 Marvin Baynham 2.81 2014 Nathan Freeman 2.82 2013 Jack Watts 2.82 2008 So, yeah he is seriously quick.

Joel Smith | Victoria | 64 | SG Smith was a member of the Australian U19 squad in last years Pacific Championships and was one of the key players coming off the bench, averaging 10.3 ppg & 3.3 rpg on 49% FG. Smith was also a member of the Australian squad that attended the 2014 Nike All-Asia Camp in June. You can watch him score 18 points here - Somehow I don't think we are going to find any footy highlights ...

I think we are all talking a little in circles here. The things we know - we had a player in mind for pick 3 who was not going to be there at pick 6. There are 3 contenders for that: Parish, Francis, and Curnow. Considering the amount of time we spent with Parish, we assume it is him. Mahoney has said pick 7 is best available. So that is who we will take. The experts say that Ess rate Parish, Curnow, Milera, Francis, Tucker; GC rate Francis and Mileria and Melb rate Parish, Curnow, Weiderman. We have also spent time with Balic. In the 5 picks from 3-7, we can only be certain at this time that Parish and Francis will be taken. Mileria has rocketed up the boards, Weiderman has only been brought into the conversation because of our need for a buddy for Hogan. I think we are over-rating Weiderman as a top 3 pick at the moment. He's been injured all year and Lever dropped to 11 and Lever had shown more. Curnow has always been around the mark but there are question marks because he didnt play. Others we need to think about are Tucker, Matherson, Balic (seriously he might end up a Dee), and Burton. They are all going to be looked at hard in the next few weeks by the media. The team will already know the draft order, but Essendon hold all the cards now. They must know who we are taking at 3.

While I take your point, Essendon have been very keen on Francis as have GC. I dont think that he drops considering how much they have been interested all year. I know that SA boys tend to go under the radar but I think he is too talented to drop that far. Would love him though. I think Weiderman drops to us at 7 as Milera had an amazing finals series in the SANFL. At this stage though De Goey was still a teens pick and so was Bontempelli. Ahern came out of nowhere as well. Seems too high for McKay, Ah Chee might go up the draft order as well, there are words on Hibbard but I dont see him near a top 10 talent. Tucker and Matherson should be around there as well. I dont think we will be surprised on draft night though. Our club knows who goes at Pick 1, 2, 3, and 6. I assume they have an inclining at 4 and 5, but I'm sure we should know in the next week or so who will go where.

Willing to take this bet. Francis wont make it to us.

We got an A- from Terry Wallace.

From Paige Cardona: 3: Darcy Parish (6) Height: 181cm, Weight: 72kg Club: Geelong Falcons Position: Midfielder If Darcy Parish was a thermometer, then not only would the mercury be rising, but it very well could have exploded through the top by now. A 38-disposal effort against reigning Premiers Oakleigh last weekend means the lid is off. The kid is a jet but we already knew that. In the past month, Parishs stats have been off the Richta. The blonde-haired, nimble midfielder has averaged 30 disposals over his past month of TAC Cup footy, has shown his outside prowess and running capacity with an average of 9.5 hand ball receives per game, and leads the competition in metres gained. He gutsy line-breaker isnt afraid of winning his own ball, and is no stranger to making his presence felt on the scoreboard, either. Busy midfielder who is tougher than he looks. Likes to break lines, and has serious hurt-fact by foot, rarely ever missing a target. Has a tendency to always get the ball moving, and likes to play on wherever possible. Hunts the ball with intent, and is a relentless tackler. Can be pushed forward where hes known to hit the scoreboard. Bounces through congestion and has worked hard on his inside game. 4: Aaron Francis (-) Height: 191cm, Weight: 88kg Club: West Adelaide Position: Defender/Utility Continuing on from his good form, the tall utility from West Adelaide looks a safe bet as a top-five talent, if that wasnt already known. Hes safe as houses in defence, cutting off entries with strong marks, and finding avenues to propel his team into attack, whilst up forward hes not shy of flying for a pack mark; put simply, he has game-changing attributes. Francis also has provided minutes through the midfield; its where his mature body and thirst for the contested ball make him a wrecking ball in close, but the question mark on him is his tank its not quite at a level where he can threaten the midfield for prolonged periods of time, and looms more of a swingman prospect at either end of the ground. Clever defender/forward with a strong vertical leap. Understands when to leave his opponent to impact other contests, as much as he knows when to push off his man to provide an option coming out of the backline. Has shown that when hes played forward his leading patterns are crafty, taking marks at dangerous spots inside 50. An aerialist who is unstoppable in the air. Reads the flight of the ball well and rarely makes poor decisions. 7: Charlie Curnow (-) Height: 191cm, Weight: 95kg Club: Geelong Falcons Position: Utility The big fella is back, and my gosh has he returned with a vengeance. Charlie Curnow has put together three consecutive games now for the Falcons since suffering a dislocated knee back in May that put a line through his National Championships. Curnow has been stationed up forward since returning, bagging nine goals across games against the Knights, Chargers and Stingrays. During that period, hes thrown up some exciting numbers; averaging almost 13 possessions, six marks (three contested), and has kicked 6.1 in the past fortnight. The aggressive utility is strong and competitive, has courage and excels in the air. He always looks a threat when hes near the ball, and isnt afraid of playing high up the ground where he can out-work his opponent. Hell go early, but isnt one who I believe thatll impact early in his debut year. Curnow is a natural footballer, but hes still got development to go in his game. Hes more of a long-term prospect. An athletic tall forward that plays like a midfielder, yet has the physical attributes of a Tex Walker. Is a booming kick for goal, a monster contested grab and is quite pacey given his measurements. Has a massive endurance base since playing most of his footy as a midfielder before his growth spurt. Still raw in facets of his game, but looms as a long-term prospect that could shape a clubs forward line. 8: Rhys Mathieson (10) Height: 185cm, Weight: 79kg Club: Geelong Falcons Position: Midfielder Another contested beast that makes a habit of ensuring his opponent eats dirt when thrown to the ground in a tackle, Geelongs Rhys Mathieson is a competitor with a football character that coaches crave. A workhorse that loves the physical stuff Mathieson has a tank that allows him cover huge territory, and remain on the park for long periods of time. A midfielder wholl dominate the clearances and contested ball, Mathieson doesnt have any breath-taking traits, however youll always know what youll get with the fierce midfielder; courage in spades, leadership by the bucket load and an unrelenting attack on the ball that inspires teammates. His disposal can be rushed and scrappy at times, but hes worked hard on that, and it showed during the championships, averaging 68 per cent disposal efficiency, a tick off AFL-elite. A competitive beast that hates being beaten. Terrific footy IQ with a tendency to know where the ball is always going. Knows his way around the stoppages, and is an excellent tackler who likes to slam his opponent into the turf and hit hard when the opportunity arises. Can also push forward where he is known for kicking goals in quick succession. 12: Sam Weideman (-) Height: 196cm, Weight: 91kg Club: Eastern Ranges Position: Key Forward A competitive beast blessed with terrific athleticism, agility and a strong leap, Sam Weideman has become somewhat of a hard man to place given his lack of football this year, thanks to a stress fracture in his foot. Weideman had a consistent year for the Ranges as a bottom-age prospect last year (albeit a minor hiccup midway through), getting better as the season progressed, but you only need to look back at his remarkable game for the Academy against the Northern Blues VFL to see what hes capable of. Weideman has clean hands and is an elite contested mark. He doesnt mind flying for a ball in a pack situation, just as much as he loves going one-on-one. An efficient power forward, and when you watch him next, check out his composure on either side of his body something very rare for key forwards. A talented key forward with a strong contested mark. Has missed a lot of football this year due to a stress fracture in his foot. Showed in his bottom-age year he could be a focal point up forward, providing the Ranges with a key target up forward in Christian Petraccas absence. Has good depth and penetration in his kicking, likes to play higher up the ground and push hard into open space inside 50. Grandson of Collingwoods legendary Murray Weideman, and son of Mark who also played for the Pies, albeit not enough to qualify for father/son.

Watched him quite a lot this year. Really fierce competitor. Kind of rips the ball away from you and runs away. Like a three year old kid grabbing a toy and bolting and has the speed that you cant catch him. There isnt a Petracca or Brayshaw this year but Darcy held his own with them when he was 17. The boy has mongrel. I've been surprised at this. He's just as good as Schache in the kicking department and most people at the start of the year expected that they would be roughly the same. He's had no exposed form which lets him down. Weitering and Schache are locks for 1 and 2. Carlton might try and float they are doing something else, but you dont pass on top quality. Plus, Carlton will be hoping that Weiderman falls to 8.

3 Parish 4 Francis 5 Curnow (makes me sad) 6 Milera 7 Weiderman 8 Doesn't matter because it's Carlton! Watching Milera. Has great skills, great pace, skinny as a rake. Just a red flag as a Melbourne supporter =p

Jourdan Canil released Bound for Glory News Top 30 Draft Prospects today. 3. Darcy Parish Club: Geelong Falcons Position: Midfielder Height: 181 cm Weight: 73 kg Player Comparison: Lachie Whitfield Darcy Parish is a classy outside midfielder, who despite his flaws, should be a top five pick. Parish is a very slight framed player who has great speed. He runs hard to receive a handball or take an uncontested mark, then will keep zipping past others to break lines. Parish loves to kick, and he can often have 20 or more kicks in a game. Most will hit the targets, as he prefers to do short sharp chips. Hes a good decision maker and with that comes a high disposal efficiency. I think at AFL level that efficiency may drop a little as he will be encouraged to be bolder. Its scary that a player with so much hurt factor still has so much room to grow. Parish has become more of a goal kicker, and hes put on a bit of weight to increase his core strength. Hes got room to improve his defensive efforts, as his strong tank and speed should really see him taking down few more players. I see him growing into that Lachie Whitfield mould, but perhaps with a little more pace. 5. Aaron Francis Club: West Adelaide Position: Utility Height: 191cm Weight: 89 kg Player Comparison: Adam Goodes Francis is just a shade below the top two in my eyes, but hes got the potential to be a franchise cornerstone. Hes a terrific intercept mark, has tremendous athleticism and literally plays in every position. Francis has played his best footy as a third tall or key defender, as his intercept marking and ability to rebound are his two best assets. Hes also extremely strong around the contest, so he can win his own footy on the inside. His kicking is well above average, and he is quickish, so hes a good player on the outside too. I liked his smarts when playing as a forward. He lead up consistently, and he provides a great target. When the ball hits the deck, he is too big and strong for small defenders, and too agile for bigger ones. The one query I have on him is his goal kicking, but I havent seen a big enough sample size of him as a forward to say whether thats a true weakness 7. Charlie Curnow Club: Geelong Falcons Position: Key Forward / Midfielder Height: 191 cm Weight: 95 kg Player Comparison: Jake Stringer Curnow looks like a possible top five pick. He can be a bit lazy, often looking to engage in one on one contests, rather than leading up and using space. Having said that, hes an elite runner with a very high beep test score, so clearly hes got a strong work ethic. He gets by in under 18s with his strength, and obviously coming off that knee injury he wasnt able to show his running strength. Hes a great contested mark, he wins his own ball on the inside, and at times, his skills are usually pretty good. I think his 21/30 on the kicking test at the combine was a bit misleading. Hes a below average converter on goals, and hes not a great field kick either. Hes got a very high upside with his great frame and the ability to grow into a big-bodied midfielder, but I personally see him as a forward in the Jake Stringer role. 9. Wayne Milera Club: Central Districts Position: Outside midfielder / small forward Height: 185 cm Weight: 75 kg Player Comparison: Shaun Burgoyne (early career) Milera has far exceeded expectations this year. Hes a creative midfielder / half forward with some of the best skills in this draft class. Milera is a terrific decision maker and he offers something a bit different to the rest of the midfielders in this draft class, where there seems to be one or two clear options, but hell cut through the middle and pick a more damaging option that most players wouldnt even consider. Hes very agile and hard to tackle, and he loves using his speed through the centre of the ground. Milera has been the best performed junior in the top flight of the SANFL, where hes consistently found the football and chipped in for several goals on a few occasions. 10. Rhys Mathieson Club: Geelong Falcons Position: Midfielder Height: 185 cm Weight: 79 kg Player Comparison: Jordan Lewis I dont like to overrate players, but Mathieson has a similar style to Jordan Lewis, in the way he plays on the inside and outside. Mathieson is a big time accumulator, but its the way that he does it that really makes his 30 disposal games really impressive, despite being just an above average kick of the ball. Mathieson hunts the ball on the inside. He throws himself at the contest, and despite not being the new prototype big midfielder, his body strength in packs is advanced for his age. He knows how to position himself on the inside, and once he has the ball, he executes handpasses in traffic and out of the bottom of a pack quickly and usually to the best outside option. Mathieson is terrific on the outside too, and this is what makes him such a champion type. Mathieson is fairly quick on the outside, with a solid 20 metre burst that breaks games open. He doesnt have to run a long distance, because with the separation he creates in a short space, he gives himself enough time to launch a kick into the forward 50. Mathieson has above average skills by hand and foot, and hes a solid overhead mark too. 16. Sam Weideman Club: Eastern Ranges Position: Key Forward Height: 195 cm Weight: 91 kg Player Comparison: Levi Casboult Weidemans injury issues have made him an intriguing prospect, as he has so much that he must improve on. 2014 was an up and down year for the forward. He was able to play 15 games, but only kicked 19 goals and 15 behinds. His statline is poor, but recruiters will look to his best games to find out why he is so highly regarded. Again in 2015, he struggled statistically, despite receiving very good delivery from a strong midfield group. Weideman is a terrific mark of the ball. His contested marking is a standout in pack situations. However, what is most impressive is his ability to take one grab marks on the lead, particularly in sticky situations. You know if the ball is within his long reach, then he wont drop it. Hes a below average kick of the football. Hes probably one of only a handful of players in this draft class who have one truly dominant skill, but when you cannot convert simple set shots at goal, then it really hurts. Weideman plays as a true leading centre half forward, but he also has the size and skill set to play as a full forward.

Adding surety to what we get at 3 and then again with 7. We should bring in two potential A grade players. Really impressed with Tom - super competitive, great runner, midfield and down back. We think him coming in help our young group of guys. We have a bit of work to do on who we pick; could be tall and a mid, two midfielders. Fitzy - Hawthorn wanted to get the deal done, they wanted it done now so they gave us pick 94 so they could get them today instead of in the next 10 days. Mahoney wants to go home and not worry tomorrow but thinks he'll get some calls about the picks.

I dont know how we move up on our current picks. We will know who GC are taking and they know who we are taking so that is moot. I dont think that the Bombers will trade with us. Although if we are set on 2 of Curnow, Weiderman and Parish and Ess are very keen on Parish - maybe 3 & 7 for 4 & 5 works for everyone....

Willing to put money on that we wont big on the GWS boys at 3 or 7. Carlton wont put a bid on them at 8. If I am going to loose the picks anyway, I might as well try and get something out of it.

I guess we have been talking about it a lot but it seems that we are fairly keen on Parish, Curnow, and Weiderman. The question remains who is pick 4-6. Francis will be one of them, word is Milera is another. That would leave us with 2 of these boys. Anyone else have any other ideas?

Pick 7...

So the twitter talk from 'the insiders (Andersen, Twoomey, Qyale) are all saying that it is down to three: Parish, Weiderman, or Curnow. They are saying that Parish is leading but dont be surprised. Parish wont be available at 10 but the other two might have been. So considering that 10 came out of nowhere, I assume Parish is the number 1 target. Parish Weiderman Curnow

Wont be done today. But hoping to get it done tomorrow (Mahoney on Trade Radio)

With 3 and 10 I'd assuming we'd be thinking about Parish, Curnow, and Weiderman. Assuming that us and Essendon will knock out GWS' 7 and 8, that leaves GC with 6 (Francis), Adelaide 9 (Mileria). All depends on what happens with Ess 4 and 5. We might have the choice of Curnow and Weiderman at 10. The others around there are Tucker, Balic, Matherson, with an outside chance of McKay coming up to 10. He is only a few days from being in the 2017 draft. So for a key forward thats a good sign.

Mahoney said that the trades " gives us the picks needed to facilitate further trades before Thursday’s trade deadline.” I assume that pick 50 is for Bugg. Maybe there will be something else in there? Don't know who else we are linked to though.