old dee

So you don't like him?

Me too Cudi I guess we were all so desperate for a change in the way the club was run that we clung to anything that looked different and gave us hope.

No,it just means he is the unluckiest supporter on the planet. What are the odds?

Sometimes the truth can be painful demoniac. Perhaps you should be a little more circumspect in the future

I have mailed twice last year and after the St Kilda NAB game. I could see the looming problem. Every letter I have ever sent a letter to the club bar one has been answered over the last five years. Did they change anything, probably not but at least I put my view point

If you look at those threads bing you will notice I have stated on numerous occasions that I believe we tanked no doubt in my mind. I wax on about winning every possible game no matter what the drafting consequence, I hate this honourable loss crap I have said we did no different to Carlton, Richmond , WCE and numerous others. The farce is we were fined $500 000 for not making sure we did a good job of keeping someones mouth shut. Result we were not guilty but fined half a million that is the fact. That period has help contribute to our current situation along with a number of other disasters in Coaching and recruiting. If it was raining soup the MFC would be standing there with a fork.

I know exactly how they feel BD If I was not locked in with my brother I would pull the pin and suffer the financial loss The pain will be far less than attending. In spite of their loss to the Dogs I think the lions have a reasonable team. They are at where we should be.

Where is Neil Craig in all this? Not a word! What the hell is his view? Is he giving informnation to the board? As I understand that is the line of responsibility. What does the Football Department Board member think? Nothing from him either. A lot of people saying nothing it looks like to me!

Mate I know you are hurting please don't leave us. We are all in this together I know not like you. Hang in there.

Why have Frawley ( A A ), Garland, Maloney ( Club B&F ), Jamar ( A A) , Gone from Champs in 2010/11 to chumps in 2013? What has changed?

I don't think that is the problem olisik

Perhaps in the long view that is not the worse result wattsup

We just did not understand it was burning the place down mate

I didn't intentional bait you stuie. But am beginning to wonder. There is definitely something behind the hate of CS by CW , GD and others in the media. They cannot all be crack pots. I would love to know the real reason. I suspect it all stems from the 2011 year that so much of our problems seem to stem from.

Perhaps CW has had it right all this time!

I don't think we played it anywhere any time Certainly not on Sunday

No it isn't it is now no.23 plus NAB games 19 have been absolute crap

That is one of the main problems McQueen. You cannot pull up your socks if you don't have any on. The list had about 8 AFL standard players in 2012 It now has about 10.

I kept saying this over the last month and got branded for being pessamistic and told they are only practise matches they don't count. Well now it seems they did matter.

I have about five smart arse replies Jonesbag But I won't use any of them. I will be happy

Then how come he is still on the rookie list? He was not elevated at the end of 2012 and will only get a game if someone goes down with a serious injury.

Have not heard from Hardtack wyl He came down from Sydney with his son, how much would that have cost. I would not blame him for moving to the Swans. You have my sympathy Hardtack not that it helps much

Me too!

I didnt DR4 I keep saying we were showing signs that thinks were not wonderful. I said our NAB form was poor. I said we had made a lot of changes but not many of them were wonderful. I got called pessimistic and it gives me zero pleasure to see my worst thoughts have come true. Ramble away DR4 it helps me cope on days like Sunday

Gee RR there only about ten of us on Demonland who know what you are talking about. The years are marching by!