old dee

You have my vote Hardnut. From my seat it appears the current team have no idea what to do next after spending 5 years getting us to this point.

Quite a lot seem to be missing this point CBF

UH have you seriously considered that many are actually as poor as they look.

I am going to live longer just to spite them Biff And Williamstown on Saturday, not sure if that qualifies as a cruise

We set the agenda We give them so many stories it is approaching funny. Do you really think the media influenced the results for last year and this. Please tell me how the media has made us lose by an average of 19 goals this season?

If I were Gary I would ring in with the flu. Say he caught it off Watts. That is believable.

Why is it that as soon as a Media writer / commentator says something we don't want to hear we attack his credibility? We called GD a moron and all sorts of other things ( me included ) and he has been shown to be right. Now it is PS. It will be someone else tomorrow. The pattern here is that sooner or later they turn out to be correct. I wish we would stop avoiding the obvious, very often these media people are proven right. Stop shooting the messenger guys.

Sorry to rain on your parade Mr Steve but there are only 29 000

I agree DemonWA I just don't see it happening, WCE will give us another 100+ drubbing. They used to [censored] us when we had a reasonable side. Now that we have the worst one in the AFL I dread the thought. The following week is GWS, have you watched them the first couple of games? There not a tenth as bad as us, they at least challenge sides for most of the game. We are struggling at the two minute mark and then get worse.

Does that mean he plays next week? God deliver me

I will not hold my breath waiting DemonWA. They will talking for some time yet.

WJ I would like to know what we have contributed to AFL football since mid 2011. The only thing I can think of is we make up the numbers to 18 teams and provide a big percentage boost to anyone who plays us. IMO in 2012 and now 2013 we are irrelevant as we will very likely be soundly beaten by most teams.

Not sure on what basis you can say that. The best we can say is in his 2 games he showed promise. Your comment has no basis in fact. Newton had fantastic VFL stats, Bate ran second in the Liston trophy. Did they become the fifth best in their AFL positions? Of course not.

Excellent binman Really glad to see you have not lost your sense of humour

Could you send it over to me RobbieF I could handle a 1.5 kg weight loss. Seriously are we this desperate to explain our inabilities. If a couple of guys had the flu why did they play? WE had an excess ( above the 12 allowed ) at Casey so there were plenty of players available to fill 22 spots. Sounds like cobblers to me.

so thats what is wrong with his kicking!

that is buried so deep wyl that a atom bomb could not get to it.I suspect because it cans everyone from the board on down.

I think our players now believe they are not good enough to be playing AFL senior football.I tend to agree with them. How do you come back from here I have No idea rpfc. Do you?

So WJ why are we irrelevant in the AFL completion at present?Why is he wrong?

Have you considered that they are giving their all!

They hardly need to look at Facebook to know we are a shambles jnr.

And we have done such a splendid job of it over half a decade DeeZee

They report what they see

He is imo correct jr

A nice article MFC. But honestly this is a dream for starters there are not 60,000 supporters in the Melbourne metro area.