old dee

I am mate but we have not played a game yet asnd at the end of the day that is all that counts. I am however a lot happier than on the 1st August

The only reason I may see it as half empty wyl is because the majority of my life it has been. I am now firmly in the camp of "believe it when it happens" By the way I have not had a go at the CEO.

While I do not disagree with your basic statement It worries me that there may not be any candidate right now. In fact the next ( first ) one may be the only one.

Just home from a knee operation mate and at the moment I do feel that old. No doubt I will bounce back. Have a great Christmas lets hope 2012 is an improvement. Go Dees

My thoughts exactly PSD. A good summation. "I am going with the Grunt" What wonderful words. Roll on 2012

Me Too

I agree and Grimes is sad but probably true again

Agree 100% WJ I was rung last night by my daughter at 9.00 PM she had just heard it on the radio. I am surprised how much it has affected me.

Agree IMO we know little until June. By that time we may be able to judge if any significant changes have taken place.

Spot on RR If you lie down with dogs don't be surprised if you wake up with fleas!

yes I am really interested to see how Williams performs. Nice to see a recruit who is not a skinny development project.

We all have em mate

I have totally missed Bossdog's message.

Sorry to be a pain ox but it is only 97 members ahead of last year.

Agree dd I have a similiar opinion. Blease is a good example, he was a good junior Has played a couple of games and showed some promise however he caught those side napping. It will not happen in 2012 he will get a lot more attention from the other team. Then we will see if he can cut the Mustard. Interesting times ahead

I have missed that one RR who won it in 2011?

I don't know which ones are not up to it. That is what we have to find out. For me they are just kids who have yet to justify their reputations. I agree with you we have had no one to carry the load while they develop. I said on a number of occasions last year my fear is who is going to carry the load while the kids develop.

You may be right, Unfortunately I am fairly cynical about the brownlow these days. I hope a Forward / ruckman does win it soon, the award needs it

The young guys are the ones I was refering to DWA. We have lots of low draft picks that have to justify their selection. The next couple of seasons will prove if they are the goods or not.

Unless he moves into being a midfielder he has no hope. I agree with wyl. Unless you are a mid fielder you have no hope. Somone said Franklin polled well this year. But he did not win it. And IMO he never will. If you are a back man you would consider the award a joke. If JC came back as a CHB he would probably fail to poll a vote. I find it hard to get interested these days.

I doubt anyone is writing off 2012 Bossdog. In my case I believe a number of our players are yet to prove they are the goods. Reputation means bugger all when the game starts. Lets see how good they are in 2012 as you say "under a new set of conditions"

It was reported the Pies offered him $300K if that is true he has dropped $200k Cost of living is no less in Perth than Melbourne so he has to be way worse off however sometimes money is not everything. If he truely wanted to go home then he has achieved his ends. Probably spend 50% of the time training in Perth compared to the Pies, no interstate travel. if he gets another job as well as the football it probably comes out equal. i.e. effort vs reward.

100% agreement on this one. over the last 3 years we dropped experienced/ hard bodies for kids almost exclusively. Net result in 2011 we had a lot of skinny kids running round who could not cut it at senior level. Our balance of experince vs youth was way out of line

Essendon colours DD! West Perth for me.

But we lost all 4 of them GT and the last game to the team that at that time was fighting for last place.