Bitter but optimistic

Now, Now Fowl! You’re starting to sound like Moonshadow and you are far more intelligent than him (well just about everyone is I suppose). A couple of points. Without going through the whole history of Dland , I’m sure there are worse threads than this – in fact I may have started some myself. As for unfounded optimism and unimaginative clichés – well this is the land of clichés. Ban clichés and you might as well close D’land – in fact close football. Finally, if you think it is [censored], don’t read it and let the rest of us dream.

Jake Spencer gets very little good press on Demonland. I rate him above Gawn at the moment. In fact, given his tackling, second efforts and mobility, I rate him as numero uno ruckman. I'm predicting a breakout year for Spencil.

Are we going to attract A grade midfielders? Who in that category is realistically available anyway? Sloane is only early 20's or so and I would rate him like having a second Nathan Jones. I would cop that for pic 2 simply because it might be the best deal we get.

At about this time last year , I put on $50 to win $500 - Dees for the eight. This year I'll just spend the $50 on 2or 3 decent reds.

Nicholson to have a kicking efficiency of above 80%.

I'm with you OD. I'll pay up my Trident membership, I'll hope, I'll buy a raffle ticket and a 2014 shirt but I wont believe improvement until I see it on the scoreboard.

I'd have rather Pedo had gone and retained Sellar. Similar abilities but I reckon Sellar had more heart and desparation

You're a bit confused as usual Moon. Get with it - Frog has the situation in hand.

One needs a brain and the other needs a heart. This aint Kansas and I doubt Roos is the Wizard.

Nah, a bit soft Moon. I'll claim the points on this exchange.

A good shiraz kicks it in - I don't know how you handle the single malts. Better leave this subject alone on this thread.

That's funny!! I have that [censored] about 30% of the time but it jumps to 100% when I watch Melbourne.

Yeah, I have a suggestion. You must sit down and read all your posts for the last 6 months. It would rate as cruel and unusual punishment but I doubt you'd stay awake for more than a few minutes!

That's just typical Moon. A fickle and shallow post.

That fellow Wines who played for Port yesterday,looked handy.

Shiraz is my preferred poison RTG.

It's a bit like winning the Liston Trophy.

The prospect of players simply being able to walk away from their club is beyond belief. It is probably a very good option for "fringe players". I cannot conceive of a mass walk out, yet the possibility exists. Can this narrative get any bigger?

I understand OD.

Does this translate into less or more single Malt OD?

You're becoming more bitter than me Moon!!!!!!

I quite like the adds too. ( You know a new love. Someone with a shared interest in Alpacas.) Anyway, I'll simply donate again but I would like the skin if you can tell me how to obtain it. Keep it simple.

I also hate the " handout" mentality and the notion of going hat in hand to Dumbetriou and his mates for" charity". However, having said that,we are deep in it I and therefore we need to swallow our pride, take everything we can get and hope this is the last time we find ourselves on [censored] street.

Well, as usual you derailled it Moon, with your sexualised comments and innuendo. Unctuous bastard!!

You are a cruel lot. No sense of propriety at all. My sister's upset. The lads are upset. Biffen's upset. I think I feel an attack of the vapours coming on.