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Cameron's manager would be well aware of his value and as the press are already touting a figure of at least $1m the bar has been set. They will have seen Buddy go to the Swans for $10m and be well aware that Cameron has much more upside in terms of age on his side, having come 3rd the Coleman medal in just his 2nd year and even more impressively, being named as All Australian full forward in just his second year in the AFL. Jones is rapidly becoming one of the most valuable midfielders in the entire competition and as such, his value will be climbing at a rapid rate... yes, he appears to bleed red and blue (hate that expression), but the club needs to pay him what he is worth to ensure that he is not tempted to go elsewhere. Just because players are already with the club is no reason not to increase their payments as reward for effort and improvement - and in the case of players like Jones, Garland, Dawes etc, that is an investment in the club's finals chances; Frawley, I'm kind of ambivalent about.

But what about the "go home" factor? As soon as he possibly could, he'd probably be on a bus back to the Dartmoor Giants!

Agree with this. Suns are already looking like they may emulate the feats of their "older brother" Brisbane and I would not be in the least bit surprised to see them manage a threepeat; their improvement over the last 12 months has been nothing short of spectacular. GWS will start to do the same in a couple of years.

A very undermanned Hawks.

How long has he been gone now? Give it a rest FFS!

I'm not discounting it completely...playing in Darwin oops!, the Alice could produce a slightly more level playing field (excuse the pun), not to mention that had a pretty hard slog against Hawthorn while we had a week's rest. If we don't manage to win, I think it will be a fairly close contest.

Prestia is with a side that will be playing finals THIS year and that are much much closer to playing a GF than we will be for a few years yet.

Kind of and kind of not. You said "MFCs main concern is keeping Hogan beyond the end of next season. Footy department doing everything they can, however, my reading of it is that footy department think he is more likely to leave than stay. My view is our only hope is if this group can quickly improve on-field....... make the future look exciting." So you had put it out there that the MFC was concerned about keeping him beyond 2015... maybe just a matter of semantics, but that does read like the MFC is worried and hence your own opinion coming on the back of that. Anyway, doesn't matter... we will find out all in good time.

Well, let's hope his Hogan mail is the 1 out of 10 he gets wrong ;-)

Very Seinfeldian :-)

Who got stuck into you in that Hogan thread? I just took a look and the only response I saw to your comment was to query with the logic of Roos taking a Director of Football position after a $1.6m per year contract...It's Time I think it was, said: "Not sure the logic behind Director of Football when he's reportedly earning $1.6mill" I certainly did not see any comments that were abusive or spiteful in any sense of the word... certainly nothing deserving of an apology.

This is a serious question... what exactly is our track record wth career ending injuries (and if you want to add this in to the mix, associated depression)?

No more silly than raising them really. How does it help either way other than to feed the endemic pessimism on these forums? :-)

Only one what could be termed "sub par" performance which was when his hammy (I think it was) gave him some grief... and the effort he put in during that game would have translated to above par... so I give him an 11. Did you mean top 5 AFL wide or at MFC? I would rate him top 5 AFL wide, Ablett being the only clear leader there.

I'm loving his year this year.

Valerie June doing "Somebody to Love" - I know a lot of people will hate her voice (at first I thought she sounded like Kasey Chambers on helium), but after watching for a few minutes I was so mesmerised by her performance that I had to go and see her second Bluesfest performance which I liked even more than the first... she is a genuinely eccentric performer in the best possible sense:

bing181, here are some clips of those among my favourites: Nikki Hilli (husband Mike on guitar) doing a cover of AC/DC's Whole Lotta Rosie: North Mississippi Allstars doing 'Po Black Maddie', 'Skinny Woman' and 'Rollin and Tumblin' and others: http://youtu.be/R6ZTgU-DoI0

I'm not saying he had a bad year last year... I meant he took a step back compared to his 2012. Let's face it, in last year's Bluey it was Jones followed by daylight and the rest didn't really matter.

I think he has played good football, but unfortunately it was always overshadowed by his misplaced aggression. Year before last he had what could be considered a breakout season, but last year went backwards a little with his disposal in particular, but I put that down to the fact that our defence was constantly under far too much pressure. I think the fact that Roos is what I would consider a "no nonsense" coach and having a formidable reputation (messiah effect) has probably made Dunn reconsider his role and has helped him to focus on the play rather than the player.

I have... his name is Salem

Didn't see any thread pertaining to this, so... http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-05-20/no-place-for-racial-vilification-jetta

Apparently Fyfe is open to leaving Freo to get the best deal: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/offcontract-nat-fyfe-open-to-leaving-dockers-20140519-zrhja.html

Why on earth would I be defending this budget??? I didn't vote for him and his cohorts and I would certainly be taking a long hard look at myself now if I had.

Just noticed this in the following article on Real Footy Demons Improvements Lift Spirits: ...In more promising news for the Dees, young forward Jesse Hogan, who has battled a back complaint this season, is likely to return to training this week after a two-week holiday at home in Perth. “Obviously being the promising young player he [Hogan] is, he’s going to be a very good player, we just want to make sure he gets 100 per cent right before we push him back into it,” Fitzpatrick said. “He’s back at the club now and hopefully he can build up and see how he goes.”

Yes and no... it can mean that you simply don't have the depth to be able to replace players. However, I do prefer to think it is because we now have a good enough first 22.