P-man

We're getting the raw end if it's a straight swap for Preuss. Up to the wrist. Not quite the elbow. Somewhere along the way the rhetoric around Tyson changed to him becoming a no hoper. The reality is that as an inside mid he is a starter in the vast majority of teams.

Ballantyne was an extraordinary re-signing. They must be banking on him holding the one ring to rule them all. Cause he certainly can’t get a kick.

I don’t think he’s the devil incarnate. But I think there’s enough evidence to say he’s not worth the risk. But as I said like your openmindedness to the idea. My stance is certainly the more mainstream. His off field issues aside, I’m not convinced he can reproduce his best football.

I admire your openmindedness but the risk is just too high. Not simply in terms of the return we will get from him on the field, which alone is a risk, but let’s not underestimate the influence a player of his age could have on players five years his junior. It’s not a case of ruining an entire football club. It’s a case of being a contributor to standards dropping that 1% which can affect results, which can affect seasons. This is a bloke who after being given umpteen chances still finds himself involved in nightclub brawls and turning up to training late. The need for another classy outside player is great, but it’s not that great.

This. There have been some wasted talents over the years but this guy is right up there with the best/worst of them.

It’s almost a case of how do you even critique such stupidity? Talk about a tenuous link. “Melbourne wants two first round picks yet are willing to have cocoa pops for breakfast”.

He’s right with regards to the foot injury. That’s it. And the foot injury is said to be of no concern. The whole thing about negative body language comes from those who haven’t watched him play for 12 months. There was little sign of that last season. He’s maturing, like everyone does at different rates, Hogan had kicked 30 goals by the midpoint of the season, but this fool and others like him are talking about “body language” like it detracts from his trade value . He’s an idiot. Hogan is worth two first round picks. Minimum. If the club accepts anything less it will be daylight robbery.

Damn. I’m starting to get my hopes up that he will stay and sign an extension. Was hoping this wouldn’t happen.

I'm gonna lose my [censored] if we let him go for just pick 5. Meltdown warning.

Well that’s that then. He’s gone.

Anyone who thinks Hogan is worth anything less than two first round picks has NFI.

No....hence entering negative territory.

That’s quite funny that someone actually called up to correct Dal Santo about Tyson’s disposal. I don’t know why anyone could be bothered but I’m glad that they can. I like Dom as an inside mid but this media myth about him being a lovely kick is maddening. BT often describes him as one of the best kicks in the side when it’s the exact opposite.

If Hogan stays then Luke Darcy loses credibility. Which would mean he enters negative credibility. Also known as the Greg Denham Zone.

Only on a club forum would you see serious suggestions of a second round pick for a player like Kent. La la land stuff. If we get offered a third round pick we should take it and run. Pick 60 or thereabouts is his worth, particularly with his injury history. That’s not to say he doesn’t have upside and could turn out to be a great pick up for the Saints, but he remains a gamble.

Has been a great servant for the club. Never dropped his bundle and gave it his all no matter the level he played at. Can leave with his head held high. Turned out to be a better trade than Dawesy. #pedofacts

This sums it up for me, although I’d say 7/10. It was one game. Yes, he was beyond putrid yesterday, but it’s one game. When we are playing well as a team and have ascendency in the middle, he steadies the ship at the back. Would anyone really dispute him playing an important role in the Semi? He will again be useful to that end next season. Which will be his last.

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Bottom six in descending order would be Vanders, Nibbler, Hannan, Weed, Spargo and JKH. That group would compare well with most other sides in the top 8. With the way he’s playing I think he’d be in the top six. It’s not underselling his performance against us last time to say it was Carey-esque. Stop him and Danger and we win the game.

Man, that is actually a bummer. BnF winner at two clubs is an amazing achievement of which he should be very proud. Thanks Bernie. Fantastic servant and will always be fondly remembered.

I’ll continue to hang my hat on the early call to draft Hibbo, and tell anyone who will listen about it, but I made a proper meal of this one. I knew he had skills but the form line over a two year period just wasn’t there for me. In retrospect perhaps it was him being shuffled around position wise that was to his detriment. Along with the whole playing for a drug cheating shammozle thing. Predicting he’d be a good pick up is one thing but it would’ve taken a serious optimist to foresee the player he is right now.

I meant to type “Yes”. Stupid keyboard.

Well that was a big load of nothing. No explanation as to why, other than Freo needing him. Stick to car raffles, Boomer.

@Grapeviney - ask and ye shall receive ?

Pass. His kicking in front of goal would do my head in. I like the dead eye dick thing we’ve got going.