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If they haven't put something on the table for him then they're almost forcing his hand.

If we can't find a way to fit his single minded will to win and his ferocity at the contest into our team that is on us. Getting rid of a player like that for "cultural reasons" would be a damning indictment on the team and club.

I think it's risky relying on the likes of Melksham (a half forward who has been in poor form or injured for 2 years), ANB (a fringe player who would be considered for delisting if he wasn't contracted), Harmes (another who has been out of form for 2 years albeit not played in his strongest position), AVB (another fringe player with suspect disposal who can barely get hands on the footy) and Brayshaw (a player who has proven to be injury prone throughout his career and is potentially one KO away from retirement - also undergone surgery to his foot which has all but finished the careers of many Melbourne players over the last decade). If he leaves we deal with it but I hope the club isn't pushing him towards the door. As I asked above, have we even offered him a contract?

Two things I will say about Mumford - I would love a player like that on our team and where was that aggression in the Grand Final last year??

Exactly. Mihocek would replace Fritsch/Hannan/Melksham as a mid range forward. He would not be competing for a spot with Weid or Jackson

IF we could land him (which is no more than a wish at this stage) we would be playing him off half back or maybe a wing. He wouldn't get much time in the middle.

Who is in our midfield rotation next year (when normal length quarters resume)? Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw, Harmes? Salem? VDB? Melksham? Sparrow... I think some are understating Viney's value. We wouldn't want to lose Viney and then have Brayshaw considering his career after another headknock. It would be pretty slim pickings.

Demonland wants Vandenberg in the team because he makes teammates walk taller getting 6 or 7 touches a games yet is happy to see the back of Viney? Maybe we can sign ANB, Hannan or Wagner up for a few more years with the money we save on Viney. Give me strength.

Have the club even offered him a contract? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere though to be fair I haven't read through this thread or even read many articles on this I would be shattered to see Viney leave, he's not my favourite but he is a genuine heart and soul player who I thought was single-minded in his desire to see Melbourne be successful. A 2nd generation player and 2nd generation captain of the club who wanted to do what his dad couldn't and bring some success to the club. To have him walk out would be embarrassing and saddening

The biggest con is having to deal with Essendon. Notoriously difficult to deal with although we did get Hibberd and Melksham from them. If he's available get him, it's a no brainer. But I doubt he'll leave Essendon won't let him go.

Is Gunston a FA? Surely he's been at the Hawks long enough to qualify for FA. If so I'd grab him and try and get a 2nd rounder for Fritsch. If he's not a FA I wouldn't want to trade more than a 3rd rounder for him.

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He didn't sling which is how they'll rationalise not giving him anything. Could be deemed a dangerous tackle though (think Kozzies ones against the Lions earlier this year) and get a fine, honestly it's probably not worthy of anything but no doubt the AFL would look after their favourites especially those in Brownlow / finals contention.

Following in Carlton's footsteps. It's funny because Sheedy was a Richmond person before going there. It's a dumb discussion for mine, once you join a club you become part of that club. Sheedy is one example but there are many. Hardwick was an Essendon/Port person until he became Richmond coach. Now he would consider himself as much a Richmond man as he ever was a Bombers or Power man. It's happened throughout the course of the games history, Checker was a Tigers man until he came to Melbourne and helped instill the ruthless Demons culture. Barassi said it best when he went to Carlton, "my heart is where I am right now" (paraphrasing)

What are you talking about? It's just giving us back the holiday Kennett took off us when he got rid of Show Day. It usually falls in the middle of the school holidays which is good for families too who often have to manage 4 weeks leave a year with 12 weeks of school holidays.

There's no public holiday for ANZAC Day next year as it falls on a Sunday

I know there are plenty not working at the moment, but personally I have been smashed since lockdown began as have my team and everyone I work with. No one has been able to take leave since the start of the year (and will be unlikely to take any leave until Christmas) so we are all looking forward to the public holiday for a well earned long weekend.

Salem is a natural forward, I get why Roos and now Goodwin want him at half back but I think we're missing a shot having him absent from our forward line

Don't be stupid UH. You've completely misinterpreted the gist of my original comments about that. I rate you as a poster so not sure why you've descended into sniping at other posters this year. Obviously my point was if the midfield coach (Mathews?) is telling outsiders the players are uncoachable it might actually be his coaching abilities that are the problem, and not the players. That's if the comments are true which I take with a grain of salt.

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Haha you got me before the ninja edit - didn't realise the post I quoted mentioned Jackson already

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Langdon has been a fantastic pick up, he's a 80-100m player

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Why is he on Cameron? Hahaha