Dr. Gonzo

Same thing was said about Hardwick.

So we come runners up the next 3 years you think he gets sacked?

C'mon od you're better than that. Anyone who uses "Goodloss" or "Badloss" gets an automatic eyeroll and swipe down the page from me, it's just so lame like a dad joke on steroids

How can they fit him in their cap??

He would play his final season as a 34 year old. Probably pushing it but you have to pay extra either in salary or years to get someone to move.

How can he be the best mid we've had since the 80s when he wasn't even the best mid we had in 2020?

Oliver has some great traits, but if he wants to go beyond being a talented player to being a superstar of the competition he has to have more impact on games. He came in all guns blazing year 1 with his work in close and his vision but he has plateaued. He needs to find another gear and greater consistency to be considered the among the best.

I'm not reading every post in here but have I missed something? What has Viney said (or are you referring to the comments made when he re-signed about the players needing to get the best out of themselves?)

Cameron is a free agent though, circumstances are a little different.

Round 1? No. Mid year? Yeah I'll start to worry.

The Swans who would've gone out of business in the early 90s if not for the Vic clubs. Who have been propped up for 25 years by the AFL to ensure they never drop out of the finals for too long because they "can't afford to be a poor performer". The Swans who had COLA for years until they [censored] off the AFL by snatching Buddy from under the Giants noses. The Swans who get priority draft picks every year in the form of Academy selections (top 3 picks Heeney and Mills as well as Blakey and that's just in the last few years!) They've got some cheek.

They point to participation rates as the key metric of success. Their strategy is over the course of 2-3 decades to get the kids playing footy and grow up to be adults who support the Sun's/GWS. On that metric (participation rates) the expansion clubs have been a success and I think they should remain where they are so they can reap the benefits of this in the future.

I created a thread when Kennett first raised this a few months back. The AFL has pursued agendas for 27 years that have benefited the big clubs at the expense of the smaller clubs. They have an agenda to maximise crowds/ratings at the expense of the middle-smaller clubs who have been hamstrung by these policies to be able to grow their brand. They also did not put in place a revenue sharing model which meant that the ones who benefited from these policies were those clubs who were preferences by the AFL. Now the piper has come calling they want these smaller clubs to explain why they are in financial strife! Decades of poor scheduling has led to this, minimal exposure on tv, constantly fixtured for dead timeslots against interstate clubs, big clubs getting return fixtures each year against each other, clubs sold a lemon with ground rationalisation and being stuck with poor stadium deals so they AFL could meet their own contractual obligations etc etc The small clubs did not stand up for themselves at the time and push back on this and now they are at the mercy of the big clubs The WA clubs and Adelaide will no doubt join Thai chorus as they are tired of what is seen as their financial success propping up the Vic clubs. Reducing the number of Vic clubs will also swing the balance in their favour so they have greater control over the commission's decisions particularly when it comes to decisions such as the location of the Grand Final for example

Not to mention their pokies licenses

The Swans!! That is bloody rich coming from them

If he is seriously upset about the b&f finish he needs to get a reality check. Why would be be so upset, perhaps there are bonus triggers in his contract for a top 3 finish? His first half of the season was pretty poor so he wouldn't have done too well votewise up until the Crows game.

C'mon binman, Watts was a no hoper. Guys like that who see footy as a hobby rather than a profession are locker room cancers. He had 10 years to prove his worth here and has subsequently retired without firing a shot at Port. Good luck to him it seems he got what he wanted out of footy but the club was right to move him on if anything they probably did so too late in the piece.

You could have stopped at "plus brown is one of those forward who marks the ball"

Which were proven right

Actually Charlie Cameron kicked 9 goals in 7 games (average about 1.3 goals a game) Kozzie kicked 7 goals in 14 games (average 0.5 goals a game) I love Kozzie, I love watching him but for him to prove his worth he needs to kick goals. He missed several opportunities throughout the season which are gimme goals for small crumbing forwards. I'm not saying he's a bad player because he is young and has time to settle and prove he belongs. All I'm saying is the jury is out

As a player he drove me nuts. Seems to have the pedigree for the board position offered to Green though, would like him to come back on board.

Jackson and Rivers look like fantastic picks. Jury still out on Pickett for mine. He needs to hit the scoreboard to prove his worth as a small forward. Encouraging signs but still needs to show it.

So they're getting rid of him because....

He dropped the ball with last year's review failing to make significant changes to the FD and instead electing to shuffle the deck chairs. He does seem to have a good record of "getting his man" which can't be understated and I would be extremely reluctant to move him on in place of Richardson who doesnt do much for me. But he has been around for a long time, hasn't helped foster and environment of success and there is the nagging issue of the CEO position. I think it's time for him to move on but it depends on who will replace him.