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Is it the words or the ranking that people are not happy with? The ranking is about right when you think about where we have finished and our very small rotation of players over the past 2 seasons in particular. On exposed VFL and AFL form, you’d only circle a few of our players as genuine future/potential A-Graders; Kozzie, JVR & Rivers. If we still had Jackson our outlook would be a lot better. Plenty of quality AFL types on our list but the next Petracca, Oliver, Gawn, May, Lever et al I don’t think are on our list, hence the desire to get the 1st in the draft this year.

Definitely the former. There are plenty of inert blobs when the former players catch up though.

Up close the kid looks like he’s got a lot of upside physically once he gets into an elite program. I was expecting him to be thicker through the hips and legs based off his highlights but he is just a lump of clay. That’s pretty exciting to think about given he’s already played senior WAFL footy.

Had a beer last night at Bad Shepherd with the same fella. We chatted the draft amongst other things and I asked him if he was surprised that we got Brown via the Rookie Draft. He reckons Brown dropped later in the year due to some disposal issues and limited scope for improvement. Under pressure missed some targets by foot and his contested work is scrappy, not clean and momentum building. Also wondered about his ability to get bigger. In saying that, he did say his club didn’t put a lot of effort into Brown as they try to avoid non WA players at the later stages of the draft. On a positive note, he also said if Goody told Brown to run through a brick wall he would and is very coachable. He thought we had a pretty good draft as Windsor and Tholstrup are good enough to play round 1 next year.

Every time I see footage of Kynan I see someone who can run, hard at the contest and tackles well for his size. I like his work in close too. To me he projects as a small defender if he can make sure his DE% is up to par. I like the idea of someone with Pig level intensity starting their journey back there. The timing could work well for us as McVee should be looking to move up the ground by the time Kynan could be ready if his development is on track.

He does seem like a reasonable fella. He could’ve joined the party and got stuck in but declined. Good post!

I think the mutual talks to leave were earlier than we think. My mail is that he was the only player on the entire list who didn’t attend a 200th game party for the skipper. A time that lines up with him getting dropped I think. I also heard he bailed on a club event around the same time but that source is not so good… Maybe a coincidence. Personally I would’ve rolled the dice and selected him for the Carlton game. It was clear our forward line was dysfunctional but we needed targets who could at least bring the ball to ground effectively.

Pretty sure I mentioned that. Just saying that WC were telling clubs that’s what they wanted.

If he doesn’t make it, it won’t be for lack of trying nor will it have anything to do with supporter sentiment. He’s a goer and would be an extremely popular father-son pick. I hope he makes it. His old man used to do my head in a bit as a player but is one of the nicest blokes you’ll ever meet.

I should mention, I don’t blame North for not wanting to give up 2+3. They’d want something pretty good back. Like Geelongs future 1st and WC future 2nd etc…

Very good source told me WC are trying to turn pick 1 into 3 top 10 picks. Also told me that the stories about WC are wanting the WA tall are a tad embellished. The stumbling block is North Melbourne. they want Pick 1 and to keep 2 or 3 so they get either the better Tassie mid or Duursma. My guess is that it could look something like below…. Which is 3 inside top 11. There would be some additional bits and pieces thrown in to balance it out. WC 3, 8 + 11 North 1 MFC 2 Geelong 6 Personally if that were to eventuate or something similar I would be ok with it.

I watched a lot of TAC Cup and state footy in 2014-15 with a friend who was working for a Melbourne based club as a talent scout. Any comparisons between Caddy and Charlie Curnow are way off. Caddy doesn’t have the explosiveness nor the ability below the feet like Curnow did back then. I thought Curnow was Kouta II. I also thought Harry McKay was a future all-Australian CHB and that Weitering was overrated. Anyway… Not to say we shouldn’t draft Caddy, rather the Curnow comp is not a good one in my eyes.

Curious to hear that people consider Jefferson as a future key forward. I don’t think he’s viewed that way internally. Whenever I see him I see him as a classic 3rd tall who can mark and create something out of nothing. Similar to a young Cam Bruce without the running capacity. In any case, Essendon really rate Caddy as does StKilda. Not sure about us but if he draws the footy and can knock a few blokes over as a forward, we should consider him at 6. Seems to have a bit of x-factor too which I like in tall forwards.

Quality person. His effort and commitment was never in question. I hope he goes on to play plenty of senior footy at the Swans.

Cheap rucks who can compete for the odd contested mark and lay a few tackles are generally a good pickup.

I’ve only heard about McKay as a specific target. The leadership group was consulted and were a part of a pitch I believe. Other than that, a KF was a priority but no names.

We are still trying for big forwards and I understand we are still sniffing around McKay.

I have no info on the package required other than Carlton are ok for McKay to talk. Could we give him an additional year for the same total commit? EG TCV doesn’t change. The big selling point from us is that McKay would be our undisputed #1 target.

We have the space to get a highly paid player. Re my ‘riddle’, we were right into McKay earlier in the year but it had gone quiet. Only heard about it again on the weekend that we’d upped the ante. We’ll see.

We may not be into King but we are having a huge crack at another twin key forward. He is the target.

The below sounds a bit nebulous but thought I’d share anyway…. I asked a mate who is a part time scout for an interstate club if he’d seen Kynan play. He has. “Shredded, slightly undersized inside mid who goes unnoticed for periods in a game due to his work at the contest” Reckons he’s got some elite traits that will translate to AFL. Ball winning, mental toughness and vision but also thinks he should play half forward as he could be elite in that role. Pressure, tackling, vision and hard running. He thought Kynan wouldn’t be a pure mid in the AFL and is not a 1st round talent at this stage. (For context there’s 10ish players he feels are definite 1st round locks with 20-30 players including Kynan to follow) He also had no idea where the club he reports to rated him but they consider it a lock that we’ll take him in the 25-40 range which he thinks would be pretty good value from what he’s seen. on a separate note, is Trav Johnstone’s kid still playing? I remember seeing a pic of him at the David Neitz Academy.

And neutral fans of the game seem to dislike his style of play/general attitude. Not sure why. He’s the best player in the comp. All you need to ask yourself is, would you trade him for anyone else in that top10?

I went along today too with a mate who used to work with a couple of AFL footy departments. He was useful to stand next to … The emphasis was on quicker movement but we will still play wide. I overheard one of the coaches telling a player to “keep it tight on the attacking side”. I think the coaching was directed at Burgoyne as he had held the ball a bit too long moments earlier. Of the younger players, I found Woewodin, JvR, Disco and McPhee the most interesting. Woewodin maybe lacks x-factor but moves well and runs without a second thought for the betterment of the team. I can see him playing 100 games of senior footy if he continues to develop. JvR attacks the ball, the body and the man. Our forward half pressure will lift with him playing. Disco is smart and a neat kick. Size might be his problem in the long run but he looks good in sims. McPhee is a better athlete than I thought. Worked hard and handled the ball well in slippery conditions. He’s behind a lot of good players for a senior spot but he looks better than I remember. Of the next group Rivers, Bowey, Sparrow and Kozzie all look really strong, composed and sharp for mid Jan. Kozzie was the most influential player during the sims in my eyes. Left or right foot his skills were excellent. Defensively roams with a certain amount of menace much like his uncle. Sparrow is just so strong. He can absorb a fair bit of contact and dispose neatly. Special mention to Chandler. He was within the top 3-4 on the field. Covered ground well, tackled hard and hit targets. His intensity was very high in the drills and sim. Some other bits of info I gleaned:- Grundy is 6 weeks behind in his running but will be good for Rd 1. Brown is being managed but they’re not worried. Jefferson has impressed the coaches with his application and has a bit of flair to his game. I must admit, watching him today, I didn’t see the flair. He is a lovely kick though. Expect to see 30-35 players play in the preseason. Club thinks our depth is now a strength.

Slightly off topic but I was watching Pies Vs Blues yesterday with a rabid Carlton supporting mate when he started to rabbit on about how Clarrie is good but Cripps is a footballing god. So I watched Cripps closely, particularly the 2nd half. He was immense but I’ve never seen a bloke stuff up so much by taking the entire Collingwood midfield on by himself. Especially late. He basically tried to stomp on anybody trying to stop him. Admirable but ineffective. I had a bit of a chuckle and told my mate, Clarrie may’ve gone down a similar path of not for a small intervention and some brilliant development. Hence, Clarrie is #1 and Cripps is somewhere in the top 10-15. Probably won’t win the Brownlow for reasons repeated in this thread already BUT Clarrie is the Death Star without a built in critical, exploitable weakness. I hope he receives Norm Smiths and Premiership medallions like I do junk mail requesting bank details and a $5k deposit.

I’ve met him heaps of times. Top bloke actually. He doesn’t rate Melbourne as a club, never has. I think that bias comes through loud and clear in these sort of pieces. He would rather invent a reason to put us down than look at the facts. It’s ok, he’s a known known. Doesn’t like us. Move on.