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I hated pretty much every aspect of his game. Even his kicks were mainly short switching kicks rather than anything remotely attacking. He is a long way behind where he should be and 1 of many reasons why we are so crap. At 1 stage he had to go back with the flight but didn't commit to the contest. Instead he meekly jogged back and put his arms out to mark the ball which almost resulted in an injury. My U/8's coach wouldn't accept that. It was soft. (Nor would my APS coach but that is another debate) Lastly, as a forward he struggles due to his lack of forward nous and urgency. His leading patterns are horribly flawed, he shows an unwillingness to run at the high ball with any ferocity and he doesn't demand the footy on long searching leads. (which should be a strength for an athlete such as him) For someone who showed great ability to read the play as a backman, Watts' positioning as a forward is laughable. I cannot see the light with this kid at the moment. AS previously mentioned he will be OK to Good for his career but perhaps not the A Grader tall we so desperately need. Lift damn you!

Watched Casey yesterday and a positive is definitely the play of Viney. He is in our best 22 already. Give him a decent preseason and he will run and spread better as well. Other positives Jones Watts Mitch Grimes Blease Trengove McDonald Nicho Rivers Howe Spencer

Stuffed my super coach team. Maybe the rumours have merit. If he mysteriously doesn't reappear then I will keeping my ears to the ground.

20. Jones gets all the votes bar 1 1. Spencer at least looks like he cares

1st time in over 20 years of going to the footy that I left at 3qtr time. Coaching staff and players alike leave me baffled. Better things to do with my time.....

This is the worst for me in my time (86 onwards) 97 was bad but at least we had some nice young players coming through and the glimmer of Jeff white and the 1st pick in the draft. It's gotten to the point that I no longer battle with the wife to attend games at all costs.

How would he improve our situation? Most Hawthorn supporters dont seem too fond of him.

Wow. Seriously stupid posts on this thread. Enjoyable though. My favourite bit is where we trade our rubbish for draft picks.... Rate him or not, (I do) Evans is in trouble. A 20 year old mid with a wayward kick, a bent leg and a crook back. WCE loved him at the time we got him but they could afford the time he needs to get his body ready for an AFL career. We most likely, cannot. Spencer isn't going anywhere and Fitzpatrick has genuine talent. The others can fend for themselves. The club has the stance that almost every player will be available this off season as they know we are way behind the field. Going forward we currently have the worst list in the AFL. Expect an interesting delisting/trade period.

There are 2 Tigers players that are very sore after playing against us on Saturday due to Spencer. That puts Spencil in the Elite bracket on our list.

6 jones 5 Sylvia 4 Nicholson 3 Howe 2 Frawley 1 spencer Seriously, how are people putting Martin in their votes? Is it a plot to somehow increase his trade value? We sucked every time he went into the ruck.... To be fair to him, we were awful all day....

Ward was trying to get a few 'cheapies' in all day and has a growing reputation for it around the AFL too and I reckon Jones had just had enough of it. Good on Jones too. I wish more of our players would stand up to the opposition.

I've played at TBO 6-7 times and it is never easy. It's a Scully of a ground and I hated playing there. Especially as tall. Windy, narrow and the surface is usually less than awe inspiring. Cook, Davis, Spencer etc are lucky that they only play there once a year. Imagine having an affiliation with Sandy..... oh.

3 more years of Jamar in the ruck makes me want to vomit. Every time Clark went into the middle we looked better. People who are bagging Cale have NFI. Sure he had a howler in the 3rd but he was pretty useful today. If only others on our list were as smart.

Pike Lyon Charles wasn't bad...... Briefly

Check the centre line. Luke is playing in the back line.

Tynan is playing. That is the highlight of the week so far.

Essendon supporters are the "Shooter McGavin's" of the AFL.

Let us cut to the chase. Players are either Premiership potential or hubbard's. (The other category is too young evaluate so they get a pass) Bail: Gone Blease: Keep Bartram: Keep Bate: Gone Bennell: Gone Clark: Keep Cook: Keep *Couch: Keep Davey: Gone Davis: Keep Dunn: Gone *Evans: Keep Fitzpatrick: Keep Frawley: Keep Garland: Keep Gawn: Keep Green: Gone Grimes: Keep Gysberts: Keep Howe: Keep Jamar: Gone Jetta: Gone Jones: Keep Jurrah: Keep *Lawrence: Keep MacDonald: Gone *Magner: Keep Martin: Keep McDonald: Keep McKenzie: Keep Moloney: Gone Morton: Keep *Nicholson: Keep Petterd: Gone Rivers: Keep Sellar: Gone Spencer: Keep *Sheahan: Keep Strauss: Gone Sylvia: Gone Taggert: Keep Tapscott: Keep Trengove: Keep Tynan: Keep Watts: Keep *Williams: Keep So that's 15 players that need to be traded/delisted whatever....... That will take either 3 years of normal evolution or 2 years of savaging the list. I prefer the latter. Wow our list is bad.

I'm not sure if it is or was public knowledge but it is true. It is the reason that Viney was named as the interim recruiting manager.

My drinking habit. I thought I had lost it but it has come back. Can't sit through a game without a drink in hand atm. Jones, Rivers, Morton, Clark, Grimes, T.McDonald and the early season form of Howe are the 'highlights'. Not great highlights but beggars can't be choosers and the MFC are the No.1 beggar in the AFL.

Put him where the ball is, defence. Play him on Walker. Put Watts on Waite and drop 4-5 players. Namely Moloney jurrah inj Davey jamar. McKenzie to Judd and see what happens, bartram would be 2nd in line. The line for this game is surely 60points.......

Most balanced team we have put on the park this season. I wonder if we can make a game of it this week.

Great post. Agree 100%. Assuming you got a slap on the wrist for the above comment.... Sadly.

The highlight of the weekend. His kicking skills were well known to most but what I liked was his vision and decision making. He wins his own footy, has lovely foot skills, runs pretty well and s aggressive. He has scope, what will he/mfc do with it?

Personally I have never rated him. Can't kick, makes horrendous decisions with the ball in hand, can't think his way through in game situations and defensively poor. He typifies our current predicament, we are a dumb footy side with poor skills.