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Loathed him myself. He was consistently inconsistent and didn't achieve anything. Left 3 years too late.

Should have been 10+

QFT. I knew he would never end up at Melbourne, although I can admit for a moment, very small one, I thought he would. Just contridicted myself there. But Pratt had made the move already.

lol @ 70,000 I say 30-35,000 with 80% of that being Carlton supporters.

That list fails because it doesn't have Damien Gasper.

Chris Johnson.

This is what Neitz is going to say at the press conference: "We're hurting as well. We know the fans are hurting, we it hurts us when we lose, too. We just have to be competitive and we're not doing that atm. We're hurting too." I stole his speech from MFC. True story.

Retire - Netiz, Yze, Holland, White Trade - Green, Miller Davey, Robbo Trade for - top 20 picks Delist - Chris Johnson, Bode, Weetra Do a "Hawthorn" and trade valuable players for high draft picks.

C'MON DEMONS... YEAH! MY HEART BEATS TRUE FOR THE RED AND BLUE C'MON C'MON C'MON C'MON DEMONS! doodoodoodoodoodoodoodoo

A class act that never reached his potential in 10 seasons and had the personality of a dead calf.

I was there and I'll be there next week to watch us lose again.

wow..Hawthorn again? Gold help us.

- Cameron Bruce is soft and overpaid and must be traded at the end of the year, preferably for a top 20 pick. You cant run around getting cheap kicks, and play two good games a year on Brad Johnson while being ion 500K. A shining exanple of why our club is up [censored] creek. (In VFL/AFL history, has there ever been a 28 year old with 160 games that has failed to lay one hip and shoulder or do something physical? I doubt it) Agree he is soft and overpaid, but there is no doubt he has a good football brain and skill. I would trade him and I think we could get a top 10 pick for him. - Brad Miller has no place in a Demon jumper. Leading up the ground and taking a few uncontested grabs in another 10 goal loss is not cause for optimism. Wake up and realise this. I guess that's a bit of a wake-up call. But he has been good the last weeks. - Colin Sylvia is a gun, and one of the few players on the list than can use the footy. Has great foot skills, and is a great overhead grab. If the coaches finally give him a spot to settle, he will dominate. I agree, though I think he is arrogant and up himself. Needs to really show his worth in the next few weeks. - Nathan Carroll , despite being a [censored], is actually a pretty good footballer. BUT he is not good enough to be the main man at full back. If he was our 3rd defensive option he would have a field day and be a damaging player for us. Bottom line is we need a full back, and if Frawley was any good he would be in the side. We are in trouble. He's the type of player every team needs. Better then Nicolson was and a good back-up to Rivers imo - Chris Johnson has no potential, no future and simply cant play the game. If you want evidence, watch when he took the advantage and played on, then had no idea what to do with the footy. Instead of drilling a goal from 40, he kicked it straight to a Kanga. Out of his depth. Agreed. Worst player on our list. - We have unearthed two future superstars in Cale Morton and Austin Wonemarri, who look like the second coming of Hird and Pickett. I know real talent when I see it. So while you people cream yourself over some very average players, I will continue to spot the gems. If Morton doesn't put on at least 70 kgs soon, he will continue to make replay showings of him dropping the ball after being tackled or being liften off the ground and thrown to the Hilton. Austin is a gun and reminds of Davey in his first year, albeit not quite as exciting. - Daniel Bell is not very good. I had high hopes for Belly. He has been around long anough now to be a backline general, and calm the troops in times of trouble. At one stage he even looked like a future All-Australian. But he has not improved his poor awareness, and its probably something that will never change. Damn shame. Agreed. Has the determination and skill, but absolutely no football brain. - Nathan Jones has a dip, but has a very slow footy brain. Gets caught to easily, take way too long to dispose of the footy. Probably wont ever become an A-grade midfielder. Sadly, I agree. He's another James McDonald. Will become 200+ game player for Melbourne. - We have more rubbish players on our list than any other team, besides maybe Carlton. Miller, Jamar, C.Johnson, Warnock, Garland. Off the top of my head. Any team that still pays a Cloak brother takes the cake. - Dean Bailey will be a great coach, and we will be good again once he builds the list he wants. It will take another couple of draft/trade periods, but he will get it right and we will be much better off than with any list we had in the Daniher era. We will even see some key position players in the ranks, thank God. Only time will tell. - Our ruck position is in dire straits. White is finished. Jamar is a dud. PJ is not a ruckman, depite his great work aroud the ground. Meesen is in the wilderness, and is more of a PJ type player anyway. And to look at Brisbane and see their 1-2 punch of Leunberger-Charman. We are a long way behind a few teams in this critical area. I think we're OK. Jamar is a great tap ruckman, but a terrible footballer. PJ is good up forward and to take the ruck in that area. Don't know anything about how Meeson plays yet.

I rekon he'll get more then 10. 1. It was a king hit 2. The player was knocked unconscious 3. No remorse. Actually threw his arms up pleading innocence. 4. He tried to hit him head high but missed first time round. 5. Jumper punch He's gawwwwwn

I stopped reading when you said "he was a damaging forward". Daniher made the mistake of playing him too far up the ground instead of out of the goal square. You can't force a position on a player, 8 years after they've been playing somewhere else. He played a handful of great games in the forward line, but never played there enough to justify that statement. He once had the best set-shot for goal in the competition. When you don't get enough in-game practice for a skill like that, you lose it. He has. Last year he wasn't as accurate as seasons before and this year I think he's had maybe 3 set-shots. I say play him deep in the backline. He's a steady player that can hit a target, but he's not hard enough to play midfield, not smart enough to play wing. Give him a medium-sized opposition forward each week and let him lead it out of the backline I say. Atleast then it will get his lack of urgency and clangers out of the corridor.

A hard-nosed, no exceptions type of player will come and say, "If we want to play finals we have to stop playing like dogs." That's the truth. Coming out and saying, "We can still play finals. We have 18 chances" is bullocks. Any team that loses by 277 points over 4 rounds at any time during a season shouldn't be given the pleasure of being in the top 8 and playing finals. That statistic wreaks of mediocrity.

Bell and Bartram a head of C Johnson and Dunn?

Can't find the article online, but Bruce said in the Herald Sun that we can still make the finals. He must be training for captain. Three weeks in a row now there has been an article straight from him. He'll be our captain next year *sigh*

Daniher had no idea. He built a team capable of winning games, but not a team with one solid leader who could win a game. That's what you need in finals. That's where we failed towards the end of the year as well. Now, the team has come unstuck and it's down hill for this squad. To say we are officially in a rebuilding mode is the understatement of the century.

I think this thread is more-so directed at people who could have attended today's game because they live in Melbourne, but didn't. 23,000 is a shocking crowd for two Melbourne teams. I blame it on Roos supporters though. They've been travelling decently. They would be very disappointed in that number. And I laugh at them if they sincerely believe they have 30,000 and all of which are actually Roos supporters. I know 6 people who bought memberships who are either Richmond or Melbourne members, but bought one to keep them in Melbourne. They won't buy one next year. I'm confident the Roos membership will go down to 23k or thereabouts next year. And I think they'll move in 5 years to West Sydney.

FYI everyone, he had 4 inside 50s at half-time. I think many of you are underrating his performance yesterday. I also think he had the most effective possessions then anyone else on the field...or just for Melbourne...according to 774 ABC. One of the two. Probably the latter...

Chris Johnson. Doesn't say much about your list when a 22 year old has no idea how to play a game of football.

Sylvia is a pretty boy, cocky player who thinks he is better then he is. He was good today, but that isn't saying much in a team filled with hacks.

5. Hot babes at AFL matches 4. alcohol=fueled punch-ups 3. Weekly stand-up comedians thanks to every MFC player. 2. Meat Pies 1. Get away from the misses

I can't believe this thread has 2 pages. Cousins was @ the Junction Oval because it's a random ground, not "Melbourne's ground".