Really?? If we want Judd we need to give something. It seems to either be a Rivers or Frawley exchange somewhere down the line. Rivers is the biggest loss but you are adding the best midfielder in the comp, while losing an exellent potential AA backman. Even with this Surely Chip can step up with some experience under his belt and fill the void. Without Judd we still have a lazy midfield with 2 excellent prospects in Jonesy and Brock who desperately need a role model. Our backline has been deplorable but taking into consideration the neglect our midfield has shown in defending and the absence of, imo, the best small back in the comp in whelan for the year, adding Judd for Johnstone, Rivers and a pick package might not be the defensive armageddon you envisage.