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I don't think it's tag they "earned" through any bout of success or anything like that. I always thought it was a bit of a jeer, like, "Look at the privileged school boy superstars prancing around the locker-room like Hollywood stars". So yeah I want it to go too but it was always a mockery I thought, rather than an acknowledgement of success or talent.

Stynes, Lyon. They all benefitted from Schwab's salary cap rorts, which is why they stuck their head out for him post-186. The club chewed up Gutnick and spit him out because he challenged the boys club, the Hollywood elite. Why are we STILL talking about this after 50 damn years? Still? It's actually comical.

They don't get it.

While a guy learns how to work in the "top job", our club is dying. NEXT!

lol funny you bring this up. Many an update since yesterday.

Peter Jackson told us everything we already know: The club is led by the "establishment": a single representative of the Ivory Tower that instills some sort of self-proclaimed moral superiority over others. It's not secret. It's been like this for decades. And we've heard it all before. Lyon spoke of "elites" controlling the club when Bailey started. Schwab mentioned it before hiring Neeld. We hear a lot about what CAN be changed, but it never happens.

Yaha.

LOL! Post of the century but some here are going to hate you for that...

He's far too experience. I'd much rather a no-name. It's the Melbourne way

Gee whiz The Footy Show is dragging it out.

"We'll go in on Sunday with less experience out there than Gold Coast. "At the moment we're playing with an average experience of 50 games."

I thought the exact same thing. People get it. Melbourne collectively has a lower average games played than its opponents. But I hope to God the day we play a team with less experience Neeld's team flogs them...

Eh... *shrugs* Schwab and a few other hacks from the club have been around to successful American and European clubs to "see how they work". It was part of the effort in rebranding the club and partly led to the club's current emblem design, which attempts to embrace the club's heritage and history (you can judge yourself if you think it achieves that). You don't "learn" about guys like Sir Alex. You learn FROM guys like Sir Alex. Unfortunately, there is not a Sir Alex in sight at the MFC.

Daniel Rich: 27

Aren't odds partly calculated by punter spending habits? It's no surprise that people are putting their cash essentially equally on GC and Melbourne, a little more so on GC. This is not shocking news. Odds aren't really indicative of "where a team is at"...it just represents what punters think of the team.

Bulldogs played a Prelim a few years ago and were finals-bound for half a decade. GC has Ablett GWS has Sheedy and a future star full-forward Brisbane won 3 flags in the 00s. Who are you kidding?

Reality is that Demonland represents a very vocal minority. The casual supporters are the ones you need buying memberships because the hardcores that come here for all the complaining they do they still go to games and pay memberships. The casual fan wants to pick a team and no one picks the underdog unless your name is Clementine and you're a full-time student living in Fitzroy that survives on thrift shop handouts. It's becoming "cool" to go for Melbourne because of how bad they are. That sort of support is the "fickle" support you hear of: "fickle" is not paying members that complain but still go to games. They're the "hardcore" fans. It's not just about winning anymore. It's about creating a brand associated with winning so that the Chinese exchange student living in Melbourne chooses the Demons instead of the Pies, or Blues. They don't need that support because they've had it for 100 years.

Oh please...

Still don't understand why the club doesn't use the secondary "MFC" traditional logo. Seems natural to go down this path. Melbourne appears to be the only club that replaces its prominent colours with a shade, and a jumper not even remotely representative of the club's traditional colours, guernsey or design. And it really pisses me off seeing people wearing the clash jumper. It is a travesty. They always have been. Richmond: Essendon: Collingwood: Carlton: And then, Melbourne's:

I don't like the drive out there. From the North it is about 1.25-1.5 hour drive, which is pretty much what it took me to get to Waverley back in the day. If the club can establish a strong foothold there and generate maybe 5-10k extra members within 20-30 kms of the stadium then it would definitely be worth it. I might not always go to games there but a 15-20k seat stadium would be great.

I have? Not that any of said players are even of his quality..

Isn't he basically co-captain anyway? I was of the belief that even though Trenners and Grimes are "officially" captains, the leadership group collectively has the same goal to lead the group. Making him "co-captain" wouldn't change anything aside from making fans think he is actually doing more than what he's already doing. "Captain" these days is really just "media front" anyway. Nothing would change. He's already captain. Giving him the official title will just...well...give him an official title. Wait until 2014.

Would be a superb addition to our midfield. Even if he is injured it would be a great addition to the club. There are risks with every player.

Jeremy Howe is a younger Daisey Thomas and he would benefit immensely from having him in the squad. Get him to the club! This is free agency.

I don't know if it's just me but I thought the team addressed the issue of positioning and zoning quite well yesterday. Being at the game is much different to watching on television, but you could tell the team addressed the issues present in the Brisbane game. A few times they made Carlton pass back into their defensive area and a Demons players sprinted up on the mark to push them back. The only problem is that once we forced them into a long kick the Blues were too classy and quick around the stoppages. A few times the ball fell behind the pack and they go the goal. I think yesterday was more representative of a top-4-caliber team finally running away from a bottom-4 team. Potentially Melbourne could have been ahead at half-time if not for wayward kicking and taking advantage of inside-50s. It was a considerably better performance than the Eagles match, and imo more promising than the Brisbane match (which I am still adamant the team should have won). Anything less than a 5-10 goal pasting of the Suns is unacceptable. They are no easy-beats though.