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Forget about the supporters. Imagine if you were the marketing manager of a company that sponsors the club? No one in their right mind wants to be part of an organisation that openly admits to being crap for 4-5 years. Like, literally comes out and say, "we'll be [censored] for the next 5 years". Okay well figuratively but he may as well say that.

Beat me to it. 2008, 2009 were bad, but not this bad. Not without lack of effort. And, like, tackling and all that stuff.

I have the lube and I am ready, raring to go!

It was 2pm for a while and then around 94, 95 they shifted it to 2:10.

He's the kind of guy that will be 32-33 if/when this team is thinking about finals. And he'll play to that age. You need that experience these days. Sign him.

Rohan? No but seriously well said.

Healy is the worst at reverse racism. He has always had a thing for black players. He makes out like, "Oh, look at them, little black fella playing good footy, good on him!" It's part of why I don't bother listening to him. He represents a consistent stream of wealthy bogans that dominate the AFL media sphere.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/schwab-designated-fall-guy-walks-plank-20130409-2hjk1.html There is another article on The Age from 1999/2000 but can't find it... Crikey also wrote a piece on Melbourne's potential re-hiring of Schwab back in 2008: http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/30/chairman-jim-stynes-puts-the-hollywood-back-into-melbourne/ As for Gutnick, he was no saint. Seems many a white knight has trotted into Melbourne before having to result to financial fallacies and unethical competitive (or uncompetitive) tactics.

Neeld had us looking for positives in big losses quite early it seems.

The media's role is to scrutinise. It is scrutinising the club. Don't be such a pansy like the club and get all offended by the true words of a fickle [censored] writing for a crap newspaper. What he says is not untrue. But let him get his shares on Facebook. He's not wrong. He's really just a messenger. Don't hate the player; hate the game. And Melbourne's game is worth hating right now. Without Melbourne's crap gameplan there is no Melbourne bashing. Solution: Pucker up and earn some respect.

Keeping Hogan is up there also.

2 coaches now and counting... Watts has played good footy under Neeld. But overall, he is Bailey's legacy. So is most of this squad.

lol he's bigger than anyone on our list... Remember when everyone had an orgasm over this shot:

Honestly, I think we'd be a top-8 side if we had just two of those mids in our team.

We wouldn't have Clark and probably not Dawes if we'd kept Scully. We'd also not have had Clark either way if Neeld wasn't coach. Are you suggesting ANY coach would have chased him? I'm not sure Bailey would have. A better question: Had Paul McNamee had stayed on and gotten his way re. throwing a million bucks at Jonno Brown, would we be better off? The Schwab instead of Bailey scenario is kind of like swapping [censored] for [censored], really.

I am definitely a winter person. I can hide my fat easier.

"Of our decent tall payers, who would you trade for a good mid from another club?" Jack Watts. Every. single. day. of. the. week. For a ball magnet like Prestia that has Judd's hips and Swans' smarts I'd even consider giving up Trengove. Yes, really.

I have considered the prospect of trading Frawley but he's a diamond in the rough, albeit a struggling one atm.

"FORMER Fitzroy coach Robert Shaw says Melbourne is worse than the Lions in their dying years and is insulted by comparisons with the now defunct club." He's so right. Fitzroy was a murder. Melbourne is a suicide. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/robert-shaw-insulted-by-comparisons-between-melbourne-and-fitzroy/story-e6frf9mf-1226643371146

Get him in the red and blue. The Prestia family is diehard Demons since the 60s. No excuses.

Strangely, Dawes mentioned this in his column today, that the result was an "indictment" on the playing group. What I find most interesting since 186 is that the players have consistently come out in defence of the coach, and in essence the club, to blame it on themselves. I don't quite understand it. I don't think I've seen players so empathically take the burden of an ENTIRE club's misfortunes. We saw Richmond players spin their crap performances for decades, but with Melbourne it's as if the players are acknowledging the situation the club is in at the moment, everything that is wrong, and putting it down to their own performances. Realistically this is probably the only way to address adversity, but boy is it getting ugly. For two years it's been "us, the players". They say it as if to take pity on the club. Makes me sad.

Far too few Jack Watts references.

Sounds good.

Reminds me a bit of Guy Rigoni.

The spin is a PR front. It will never stop, and no one is holding a gun to your head to read or listen to it. It's there for sponsor relations and to try and keep the brand strong under adversity. I hate it too but it's no worse than saying nothing at all. You've 20-25 year olds getting in front of millions of people speaking on behalf of a 150-year-old club. Give them a break now I think. Even I am guilty of being a [censored] sometimes.