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lol

2008 had good times though. The team also pushed finals sides at time. This team will get pounded by 10 goals against the Dogs. The Saints, maybe 5-8 goals. Far worse than 2008, 2009.

Yeah, that's to be at liberty to speak, rather than "democracy" (isn't "democracy" a buzz term these days? Seems used to define "mob rules").

It is what it is...

I'd rather watch them beat a team in Perth like Freo on my television then see them beat up on GWS at the MCG. The team's record since 2007 is entering catastrophic levels.

wut

Yeah, I always gathered the VFL report was more of an off-beat, "this is what you missed" kind of thing, because no one watches VFL, let's be honest.

That is pitiful.

It's great to see they performed well 50-60 years ago. Really, it is. But in another 10-20 years, few people will be alive to have remembered it. Time to move on and look forward. We need to replace all of those "19s", "50s" and "60s" with some "201x".

Frawley always gets up against good ol' Mr Punt Road Jack Riewoldt. I love their contest, every time these two teams play. Trade Frawley.

He contributed more today than the person he replaced has contributed over about a 20-game period. Just putting it out there.

Can we blame Dean Bailey? I don't know. Not enough blaming going on in this thread.

We'll have to wait until 2017 to find that out

Skill and decision making. I'd suggest that attack on the ball is driven by your capacity to urge your physiological traits to excel and, hopefully, come out on top in a one-on-one battle. I mean, a strong, little guy, for example, needs a real passion just to: a) simply get his hands on the ball, and, b. have eyes for goals. It's no coincidence that guys like Jake King, even someone like Rodan, has a particular demeanour on the field, generally a personality that allows them to exceed well in a sport where height as well as strength are two of the physiological perquisites -- yet these guys are able to play at the highest level. Prestia I guess also falls into this category, in that someone of his stature would NEED a strong urgency to attack the ball rather than, say, get caught up in processes. Whereas a guy like Watts, he gets away with that apparent lack of self-urgency because of his pure talent. I also like to call that "potential". Nothing more. Imagine a guy like Watts with Jones' endeavour. Oh yeah, every single AFL team has a player like that. Except for Melbourne. Who hasn't since 1964. Much better to invest in guys like Nathan Jones. But guys that might shy away from a contest, or appear to not attempt the contested ball, they'll be nothing but "sweepers" of the Joel Bowden variety. It's plastered all over history.

But if there are positives it doesn't matter if they win. Or kick goals. Or tackles. Or get the ball.

Also consider GWS and GC last year. I imagine that would bump up possession, goals for/against count.

Forget about the supporters. Imagine if you were the marketing manager of a company that sponsors the club? No one in their right mind wants to be part of an organisation that openly admits to being crap for 4-5 years. Like, literally comes out and say, "we'll be [censored] for the next 5 years". Okay well figuratively but he may as well say that.

Beat me to it. 2008, 2009 were bad, but not this bad. Not without lack of effort. And, like, tackling and all that stuff.

I have the lube and I am ready, raring to go!

It was 2pm for a while and then around 94, 95 they shifted it to 2:10.

He's the kind of guy that will be 32-33 if/when this team is thinking about finals. And he'll play to that age. You need that experience these days. Sign him.

Rohan? No but seriously well said.

Healy is the worst at reverse racism. He has always had a thing for black players. He makes out like, "Oh, look at them, little black fella playing good footy, good on him!" It's part of why I don't bother listening to him. He represents a consistent stream of wealthy bogans that dominate the AFL media sphere.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/schwab-designated-fall-guy-walks-plank-20130409-2hjk1.html There is another article on The Age from 1999/2000 but can't find it... Crikey also wrote a piece on Melbourne's potential re-hiring of Schwab back in 2008: http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/07/30/chairman-jim-stynes-puts-the-hollywood-back-into-melbourne/ As for Gutnick, he was no saint. Seems many a white knight has trotted into Melbourne before having to result to financial fallacies and unethical competitive (or uncompetitive) tactics.

Neeld had us looking for positives in big losses quite early it seems.