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Let's not kid ourselves, guy: he was awful. An average player in a bad side. Let this no longer be a club of run-withs and deadbeats. We need good players. Depth is made up of good role players. He was not a role player.

It makes sense to have the Melbourne teams play in Melbourne, though. Even Melbourne v GC at the MCG Round 1 is going to get 10-15k more than what the crowd would be on the GC. I predict 28k-35k.

No way any of the draftees walk into round 1. I don't know, but something about that team gives me shivers. I hope there's improvement. But I sense a few 12+ goal thrashing.

Really? Is he better than: Jones Toumpas Viney Trengove Tyson Kent Mitchie Vince JKH Because those are the guys he'd be competing for a place in the side with.

DAT SPIN AT 1:37. When Jako went down towards the end of the season, The Ox really stepped up his game. Those 9 against Sydney in Round 24 to put us into the finals was absolutely God-like. Why has this club had such badluck with forwards? Jakovich was flying before he screwed his back. Lyon was always injured. Schwartz did his damn knee 3 times. Then we saw Jurrah, Clark, Wonna, Hogan all have their own fair share of problems. There was probably only one period of time where we didn't have any major on-field injury issues in my time supporting this club, and it was from probably 98 until 2006. Everything around that has been frustrating.

Good.

I really have no idea. It would be absolutely disastrous if they went another season with less than 6 wins. From an off-field perspective, it would make it very hard for the club. I was hopeful of 6 wins this year. We didn't get that, but were close. It could have easily been 8 wins. Is 10 wins out of the question? I don't think it's ambitious to expect that. High Distinction: 8-12 wins Pass: 6-7 wins Fail: <6 wins

4 years, 3 mil will get it done I'd imagine. If he goes to another level next year, bump it to 3.4.

We have a low support base but a high rate of support-to-attendance, meaning more of our support group attends matches than most other teams. Sydney for example has 1.5 million fans (all of Sydney) but only a small % would go to games. This means a few things. 1. We probably have the fewest bandwagon fans in the AFL, which is understandable because the bandwagon is still parked at Junction Oval. 2. We have a very concentrated support base in Melbourne. 3. Our fans are true fans. The End. (?)

My heart says 8-10 wins. My brain says 5-7.

Is anyone really surprised by GWS' urgency? You simply can't build a squad with high draft picks anymore. Once upon a time, maybe, but you need a good balanced across the ENTIRE list. It's just too much of a competitive, high quality league to bank on inexperience turning into superstars. Hawthorn did it at the right time and were probably the last team to do it so well, Port to a lesser extent, and they could very well play in a GF next year. GWS know that they need players to attract fans, and to attract fans you need to win games. Melbourne is in no different a situation. GWS' biggest ever mistake was offering so much to Scully. It should have offered the same amount to a superstar of the Ablett variety. Sheedy's obvious vendetta against Melbourne set that club back 3-5 years.

If he agreed to the trade and contract Melbourne offered as GNF said, then we must be in the box seat to get him next year.

Pfft, what does Roos know? Unless he has at least 100 posts on Demonland, his list management credentials mean SQUAT!

Would the player we would have picked at 23 be of equal or lesser value than Frost? Most likely. I don't really see the big deal.

Won't it just be replaced by King's Birthday?

We probably do. I think we're only a Dangerfield away from making the finals in 2015, but obviously that won't happen, so seeing Viney, Toumpas, Tyson, Watts, Hogan, McDonald, Kent, JKH, Jetta all improve will have to do. Do we have a better list than we did in 2010? I'd argue that that potentially we do. I don't think we've had so many young players impress in one year as Tyson, JKH, Jetta, Kent did in 2014 for a very long time.

Saints are going to take Petracca. http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/st-kilda-set-to-knock-back-offers-for-pick-1-with-christian-petracca-high-on-saints-draft-agenda/story-e6frf3e3-1227091487454

My mistake.

GWS gets Griffen and [deleted]. Melbourne gets…Garlett and Lumumba. On its own, it's a solid outcome for Melbourne. Comparatively? Those either just below, even or slightly above Melbourne just leapfrogged us.

It’s a grand old flag It’s a high flying flag It’s the emblem for me and for you It’s the emblem of the team we love The team of the Red and the Blue Ev’ry heart beats true For the Melbourne Red and Blue And we sing this song to you (What do we sing!) Should old acquaintance be forgot Keep your eye on the Red and the Blue

Neeld had the right vision and direction, but was just a bad people person. His vision to bring in experience and install discipline and defensive strategies is not all that different to what Roos is trying to do.

Bulldogs are looking to trade Cooney, a player and a pick in the 40s for pick 28 from Carlton. Doesn't quite make sense to me. Seems over from the Dogs?

Guys, stahp, pls

Disagree. Crows will go backwards, as will Carlton, Collingwood, West Coast. Who would drop out of the 8 for Melbourne is the bigger question. I think we will (should) improve immensely in 2014. 8-10 wins is a must. Anything less is a fail, as only 4 wins this year was a fail. IMO the only teams I could see maaaaaybe falling out are Essendon and Richmond.

I completely agree. The trackies make them and the league look like amateurs. They should also bring back dimsims and cigarettes breaks for players during games.