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Jones absolutely needs to go. Lewis should be begged to hang around the club. Give Jones his life membership and make him a guest every now and then. but thanks for your service. Goodbye. Viney demoted to VC. Gawn Captain. Anyone arriving to pre season overweight immediately suspended for round 1. ANB, Spargo, JKH, Stretch, Garlett to be shown the door. We need to stop hanging onto absolute spud list cloggers. Since I've been supporting this club for 30 years our list has been littered with lightweight spuds that we hang onto for way too long. I don't give a [censored] how efficient they are or how many tackles they lay. They are career "career players": every match they play, they play like they are playing for their career. Please just get rid of them ffs. Put AVB up for trade to see what you get. Dangle Brayshaw, Viney, and Hunt to see what's available and what their market value is. If someone bites with pace, skill and football smarts, do what you can to get the trade done. If we land with pick 2, Anderson. If necessary find a way to upgrade to get pick 1. Throw Brayshaw and pick 2 to GC for pick 1 and a filler. Goodwin given until round 12 to show improvement. At this stage I have changed my assessment and don't believe us to be finals caliber. Therefore I have lowered the expectation from "contention" to at least a record of 5-5. If any less, a % of less than 85% and he should be shown the door. I could go on and on.

Richmond and Geelong both resembled finals teams at points during those season. Geelong never looked terrible, they were just mid range and under performed. Richmond won 8 games but lost a few games by 80 points hence the sub-80% percentage. We have been the only team this year that has been consistently average and below AFL standard. GC started okay and won a few games. We have been terrible all season. 2019 is not our 2006 Geelong or 2016 Richmond equivalent. It is our 2014 Melbourne equivalent. We have a gauge of where we are at and a clean out and rebuild is necessary. Goodwin unfortunately doesn't have the benefit of time. Unless he and the club find a mutual ground and admit that they have completely [censored] up player management, depth, and expectations, in which case he may last his contract. But good luck explaining that to members. They stayed neutral, expecting continuous linear improvement to occur with minimal influence. I've never seen a more angered membership base. You have major stakeholders now that were in their mid-to-late teens in in the late 2000s who are now professionals and are just sick of this crap. I intend to attend the AGM and I want detailed responses to clear questions. I don't want PR fluff or corporate jargon. I am a paying stakeholder and I want details. Hardwick was questioned after 2016 and so was Thompson after 2006. But they were coaching doubts. There are major concerns about the football department and club here that reflect yet another restructing. People on this forum continue to blindly expect things to be rosy again. It's a subtle acceptance of this year's mediocrity.

Coaching, leadership, development. Age and experience have an impact. But time and time again the same issues present. Culture. Support. The Melbourne Football Club is a losers club. Brisbane at least can refer modern players to a flag from last decade. There is always something with us. The same apologists. The same [censored]. It's always something. Own up to it. You [censored] up and mismanaged players. Own it and rectify it you losers.

you definitely do not need a membership to watch AFL matches

I've heard a few things that have actually filtered through connections at other clubs, so not directly via Melbourne, but I know of the captain you refer to, and I have been calling for us to trade him for years. It's now reached a point where he has no value, so we're basically stuck "servicing" him now. Granted, however, these issues have been present for a few years so maybe not necessarily a catalyst for this year's issues, or perhaps it reached critical point. As for the other issues you have mentioned, all I've heard is of the "ego" of the president, but not really in the context of Melbourne. The wheels have well and truly fallen off though. We're back to Neeld rhetoric now with the "we don't know what's going wrong" or "we are working to change this". It's not turning around anytime soon.

I'm an AFL Gold Member so there is no way I am relinquishing that but my mum isn't renewing hers from what she's told me. Yeah, 12 bad seasons in 13 ain't that bad!

Spargo has the endeavor and heart of someone that's 6"6 120kg. Pity he's the size and weight of a newborn.

Has one bad game and now there is something wrong with him. Will be top 5 in B&F. Perhaps a smokey.

Nah they're just wrist slashers. We'll be right. We have the team. Goodwin is the man. Etc Etc etc.

It's not irrelevant. They report to the CEO. They're paid the big bucks to do a job, which is held to account by the CEO. The higher the pay grade, the fewer the number of people above you. CEO is held to account by the board. The board by members/stakeholders. This is how organizations work. If the marketing department doesn't deliver, the CEO asks why, and the board asks why of the CEO. The board isn't going to the marketing team to see why a sponsor wasn't signed.

Whose "Head Of" responds to the CEO.

players wouldn't dare. after the [censored] camp fiasco and their performance this year (and for parts last year) they would be ridiculed by their peers and the media. And are we convinced it was the younger brigade that complained? I'd really not be surprised if it was someone within the leadership group.

Tbh there has to have been more to the Dunkley and Spargo ins. I wonder if Hunt and Baker had broken team rules? It's either that or blatant tanking.

10.4 to 2.10 since quarter time.

this has been a common theme for 3 years, mono.

there's maybe 2k Melbourne supporters here. they'll be gone at three quarter time.

Fritsch going for the car.

You can't deny it. I was also attacked by some for saying it. Pert effectively admitted we need to rebuild by saying we lack the depth of finals teams. You don't build depth overnight. How many on the list outside the top 22 get a game at another finals team?

Smashing them in hitouts and contested possession. Losing clearances and uncontested possessions. Ladies and Gentlemen, Melbourne.

Switched off. That kick into the 50 directly to Aliir Aliir was pathetic. They saw him standing their and still kicked it straight to him. Goodwin has completely lost the playing group.

I'd rather have Ritchie Vandenberg captaining this club than Viney and Jones. FMD.

Crowd?

Members forums are pointless in the age of social media but it's encouraging that they are risking a PR disaster here. I suspect there will be some degree of filtering and selective questioning but hopefully someone poses some serious questions. Some questions I'd like answered: 1. How does the club quantify the impact of failed on-field KPIs on the club? 2. If pre season surgeries are a catalyst in the disappointing season, how did the FD initially quantify the initial perceived impact to team success and momentum? Mainly what I would want answered is, how did these surgeries impact the team so greatly as to be a catalyst for one of the most significant falls in the game's history? When the FD initially went to the board to advise of a slow start to the season, how was that anticipated slow start quantified? I don't want to hear "oh well we had this many players go in for surgery". I want to see it quantified: ie. WHY would THOSE specific players have impacted us so greatly? Show me why. And then, tell me the capacity and reason as to why they were managed in such a way as to force mass surgeries at once. Did the club bypass these surgical recommendations during finals to push for a flag? Or were the needs for surgery not determined until after? How does the club balance current team goals, with individual player welfare, alongside long term goals of the club and team? 3. What prompted -- and who drove -- the sign off on FD changes mid season? For example, were the poor performances alone enough to prompt it? Or was it a lack of chemistry between the team? I'd like this clarified and broken down. Then, who signed off and initiated it? Was is Mahoney initiating and prompting? Was it a recommendation (or order) from the board? Was it a collaborative conclusion by the board and FD? I want to know how these changes were implemented. 4. What are the individual and team KPI's outlined in Simon Goodwin's contract extension? What are the consequences if these are consistently not met? 5. How confident is the club in establishing Jaguar as a long term partner? If confident, why. If not confident, why. Quantify, demonstrate and explain. As members we need to ask questions that dig deeper beyond the corporate and PR speak.

How many goals are they predicting?

15k maximum tonight. 8k Sydney supporters. We'll be lucky to kick 5 goals tonight.