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I thought he went there, on the prowl. ?

no station next door.

I used to love the footy show early days... until E'd got too big in his own lunchbox. I used to watch it in bed with the fiance`. As well as the 'X' Files. Haven't times changed. Good riddance to what it became, Via the 'ME' Ego brigade. The Front Bar was really good last night, with 'Sellers' getting roasted... Molloy was on fire. Andy Meager couldn't stop putting his foot in poo. ☺️

Dave Misson: Former Sydney and St Kilda Elite Performance Manager who was the first signing of the Mark Neeld era when he joined the club as Fitness Manager in September 2011. http://demonwiki.org/David+Misson Jack Trengove started his AFL career in 2010 A foot injury in the 2013 pre-season hurt his campaign, and he was more successful with defensive duties during the season than as an attacking midfielder. After playing 20 games for the season he relinquished the captaincy at the end of 2013. Dropped after two games of the 2014 season scans after two games in the VFL revealed that Trengove had a fractured navicular bone ... It wasn't Neeld, IMO. http://demonwiki.org/Jack+Trengove https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-port-adelaide-power--jack-trengove ... can anyone see the similarities of continuing on injured, ending with complicated chronic foot injuries, during this period of time ?

I recall clearly being against the Mortons and Bennells from day dot in their first club games. they would not make physical contact to tackle etc. I was yelling at them screaming at them over the fence to chase tackle to be more physical. And especially 'Nev', was one of my favs from early in his first season. Going back to the recruitment of Miller, when Daniher wanted to recruit a hard physical key posi' player... so they got Miller. ??? I was saying back then, that one hard players does not a team make... and dit did not. This was Danihers thinking back then. He didn't rate the tougher hard players that Sheedy banked on. That was a huge mistake for Melbourne. Not playing with anywhere near enough venom, vigor, and plain aggression. Thankfully Todd Viney has brought back the 'Demon', to this club. .

OK, my take on the gyst of your thinking, was that you were having a shot at the list-management strategies, of primarily youth/draftees... that your thinking that strategy was foolish.??? I don't think it was a foolish strategy... but rather we botched it. We went about it in a real naive way. this imo was the foolishness showing. I would have kept the Jnr Macs, the Godfrey's (great example - trainer/work ethic), Wheatley's (great clubman servant), etc. ... and I would have traded the remaining skilled players off, for draft picks. ( Green Yze, Davey, Robbo, etc ) Mine would have been a total rebuild-design, from day dot There would have been no need for 'tanks', or 'mismatched positional moves'. we would have genuinely found it difficult to win matches but we would have maintained the hard workers and best leaders of young AFL players. ... Our No1 Best leader of that team, was Jnr Mc. Hard working, Honest, and a great lead by example captain, putting the body in, without question. Our Biggest mistake, retiring him.! Keeping these lead by examples of hard work, and unflinching courage... were the types to keep... Not the silky smooth brothers. With this framework, we would have had the real development structures in place, to show the kids the way to go about things. This is what I would have added all those draftees into. We went arz about and bluntly... we Fluffed it. I used that word, because we kept the bruise-free types, over the ones i just mentioned. The working types would not have got us a razoo on the trade table. But... Green, Yze, Robbo, Davey, Bruse, now these guys would have gotten us decent picks, or trades we surely could have used, kicking off our rebuild.

Let me go back to re-read what/how i wrote.

... so another 20 yrs time, we'll get our training ground, bewdy.

The problem was the types of players we picked back then... and also the lack of Real leaders 'men', to aid them in development. What we did back then, was 180* the opposite, of what we're doing now... and we getting it right at this time. Apart from an injuries hiccup, and the game rules changing.

agreed Macca. disagree Macca... it wasn't the draft pick numbers or strategy.! The problem was the types of leaders who remained within the club... We retired the best REAL leader in Jnr Mac... and the hardest workers in the club, at that time. And we kept on soft front runners and pretty footy types... There's your poor leaders, right in that group... and the bruise-free culture within. I think there's not a lot of footy IQ in our current team 22.

IMO, we need Stretches run and speed, and reasonable kicking. linking up... and Stretch needs Us, to give him some games on the run. Tracca has been treading water for far too long now, just going. It sounds to me like he's lifted intensity a little just recently... but IMO going back to Casey could be like a confessional for him, To get that monkey he's been cultivating from his back. Some of our players, including many of our young players, haven't gone forward this year. I think most of them need a wake up call. Just like it seems the club is giving Weide, atmo. I reckon many could benefit from a little reminder... especially for those who haven't been on the Casey field, in recent seasons. That reminder could well serve the club well into next season.

... he sounds all-right, Oxen. Interesting read.

Why yes... Of course. The Big Banana... the Head Honcho's of the bigger Publicly listed companies. There's you King Banana's... right there. ... let me fathom up an image of a King Banana for ya. .

And for the reasons you stated, i reckon ANB will be 'In'... for someone else out ? I wondering if they'll give the Tracta a rest at Casey for a couple, like they are with Weide atmo... Weide to return against the Eagles ?

Emergs/ ANB, Petty, tSmith, cWagner..... lots of options in that list.

Hmmn... Petracca, jWagner, Fritta, Lewis... Garlett inj ?

And I suppose your blaming Neeld... for Viney's & TMc's foot issues, as well. Not to mention our current groin injuries... and Levers ACL ?

Yep... I think there is another 'Out' coming... maybe more than one ?

Other people are not the answer to our predicament Jara. And certainly not Josh. The answer lays at our feet, IMO. ... In other words, IF 'WE' have the Dee-sire... then it Will become a fact. If we do Not, and we wish to remain the Mcc's orphan, then that 'IS' what will happen. The answer is within all Our collective Hearts. To Be, Or Not, to Be. ............................................................................................................................... Now what we do know Is... that Punt Rd is due for a Major Upgrade... for traffic flow If you look again at the Google map link > - https://www.google.com/maps/place/112+Olympic+Blvd,+Melbourne+VIC+3004/@-37.8245886,144.9846351,1247m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6ad642943affc621:0x23259ce926eaf48e!8m2!3d-37.8245886!4d144.9868238 Look at the position of the Training Oval inside Gosch's paddock, abutting Punt Rd. 1/... One thing they might have in mind, could be to take over the Petrol Station just across Punt Road... my reason is, i believe Punt Rd will be widened on the East side of the road??? taking away part of the Petrol Stations property, making it obsolete. Maybe this position could be developed into a Dee-Quarters. 2/... Or, the other position... as has been mentioned before; is to the Sth of the Gosch's Paddock training Oval... on the Google map... that Triangle of land abutting both Punt Rd and the Sth-East freeway. IF we made our HQ on this Triangular Plot... maybe we could also buy the building across Punt Rd ? >>> https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.8284668,144.9880527,3a,75y,88.21h,96.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sofKzACIlQwJROPRSNCNRFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 ......................................................................................................................................... My preference is still to Build across Olympic Boulevard... abutting the Richmond Railway Station... and 'cantilevered' over the Nth edge of Gosch's Paddock playing surface. For the simple reason that its just so much more practical socially... regarding transiting between the site, and peoples work &/or home... And to go to the Mcg Pre-Game, after meeting up at our social club on game days. .

Hah, I was thinking more like thisun, 'RN'.

Ddid you say little... put me down for $5_ GCD's..

Our own conservativeness, has been stifling us for decades. It's like we're being choked... by that 'Mcc' necktie, they have in the dresser.

Whoom ?

We did do the correct thing in this. Unfortunately Hogan was not the answer, for Us. We will come out of all this, a stronger team and club. Anyone can see now, that even with Hogan playing with us as he did last season, we would be nowhere near the top eight, with so many players down and injured, or NQR in fitness. All of our players including Gawn have been off in form early this season. We need this Gap season to refresh our list... and add to it.