jnrmac

Good summary You missed the bit where we must had had a world record number of kicks smothered.

At one point in the 3rd qtr we had something like 14 i50s for 2 pts and they had 4 entries for 4 goals. There rebound was exceptional. Our defence of it was abysmal. The 'gameplan' a=of getting it the fwd 50 raidly and holding it in there is so 2018. Can't be done with the kick in rules and players that refuse to play a zone like they are supposed to. Doesn't help when you have defenders that can't defend one on one. What has happened to Hibberd? I don't think players have drunk their own bathwater because there wouldn't have been any left after Trac and TMac have drunk it the lot. as someone quoted earlier "so many passengers and no one to replace them with" WTF have we been doing all pre-season?

Man you are now inventing stuff. Mine was a simple comment. It wasn't our worst game since rd 23 2017 Are you eating mushrooms of some kind?

It's all fugazi...

Who is Melchum and Louis?

Wow you're arguing with yourself. You said it was the worst we had played since rd 23 2017 and I happened to mention the prelim....now you say "comparing two games, 6 months apart, in two different seasons is just silly" but you want to compare two games 19mths apart? OK I give in.

Did you miss the prelim,?

Most sayings have some origin in a historical context. We'll "stick fat" with player X is out and out nonsence with no relevance to anything

Your defence of OMac is truly pathetic. He is a terrible footballer with no attributes other than being tall.

Halleluha. Finally people are waking up....

Its not necessarily that. It's that our experienced players were terrible. Their young players were the cream unlike us where we were relying on young players to do the job. Jones, Viney, Gawn, Hibberd, Jetta et al were well down on form. Frost & OMac were disgraceful

This 100%. They made this blue a few times last year. They need to review their selection policies.

This is the dumbest saying ever. What does it even mean?

Well we aren't alone... I recall I read somewhere that we got a better deal under Steven Smith but can't find it anywhere..... Also its part of why the AFL has an equalisation fund. Other teams scream about 'poorer' teams receiving money but in reality this is part of the reason it is there.

Yep. We barely make a dollar on a 25,000 crowd at the G. Geelong get all of the corporate box revenue, advertising, a big chink of food and bev etc. Teams that have 'clean' stadiums cream it in terms of revenue. Adelaide, West Coast etc. It means a West Coast can spend in the order of $300,000 a week (!) more than melbourne. Thats one reason the soft spending cap was brought in Two of the biggest problems in the AFL. Stadium deals and the fixture.

I agree with you that it is different but we were way off in skills, desire and execution. The uncontested stats tell a big story as do the contested stats that we lost only twice I think last year.

I hope you are right...

Didn't affect Richmond, Collingwood, Hawthorn or Geelong. They all looked well fit enough. Its a copout. I mean, we did look gassed but there is absolutely no excuse for it. The signs were there in the JLT games with our inability to hold the ball in our defence and how easily we let other teams score. The latter having been a major problem for a few years now.

Excellent summary and your para on our defence was spot on. Our tall defenders are next to useless. Some here won't accept that Frost and OMac aren't AAs and shoot down anyone that criticises them but how obvious is it when the club recruits May and Lever to fill the holes. They weren't the only reason we lost yesterday but they were terrible at one on one defending yet again. This has been our downfall for the past 4 seasons. May and Lever can't come back quick enough and even then they will be terribly underdone.

I thought we won the centre clearances? Unlike last year we weren't kicking to an outnumbered fwd line.

Absolute rubbish. We have the best midfield in the comp. Should be to our advantage. We lost it because we played like a 2nd rate side and allowed them nearly 100 more uncontested possessions. Aside from Salem no-one else showed up. We were pathetic. As for our lame defence. Its just as well May comes back in next week.

No one stood up. No one. Uncontested possessions showed how lazy they all are. Pathetic effort.

I see where you are coming from but I think you are wide of the mark on this. Regardless of the circumstances that led to this the Richmond guy lays into a defenceless guy lying on the ground. He deserves to go for major assault charges. And if the victim won't press charges the police should.

That worked out well....

Been told that the players were well supportive of the coaches decision to get rid of Watts and Hogan - whilst they like both he and Hogan were also well aware of Hogans ability to go off grid..