jnrmac

Fairly typical. Haven't seen a second of the game but chime in with pithy comments 'what does anyone expect' I'll tell you. We expect effort. We expect running, chasing and tackling - not too many skills required there. We expect to see what Simon is doing with a game plan that has been useless all year. There is nothing there whatsoever that anyone can hang their hat on. Not a spark. Just disharmony, no direction and probably worse is the same cr*p dished up week after week. Goodwin is clueless. The coaching panel is in complete disarray. The players are in complete disarray. There is no leadership. IN fact it looks like the rimours of a split between two opposing camps is about right - they're playing that way. DOn't care for each other, don't lead to the right spots, can't cover their men. Sam e old same old. We've won 5 games, 3 by less than a goal. It's pathetic and frankly looks beyond redemption.

We've won 5 games, 3 by less than a goal and play like this - then you post absolute garbage. Pathetic excuses can't cover up what a shambolic clusterf*** this club is.

Yeah but the happy clappers will keep bagging everyone on here that is frustrated beyond belief about how this club and the coaching panel have [censored] up our team. I hate football.

Swans don't have a real ruckman at all

He's a serial apologist for the coaching staff who wouldn't know a defender from his toenail. The bin is the right place.

It's all about structure and ours is terrible. If the players don't know where to stand or who to mind ten we have a structure problem. No one can deny we like the 'bees to the honeypot' structure though.

90 minutes of promoting P Roos Inc. He was always good at that.

Spargo has fallen a long way. Unless he is injured and I have missed it?

Must be careful at this point of the season not to laugh at anything lest Adrian Anderson is brought back to investigate....

I never said it did. You're good at presuming for other posters. It is clearly a reflection of the disfunction/failure of our present coaching set up - against what many of the happy clappers have been saying. I think I have worked out what camp you're in.

The problem is that the "bees to the honeypot" has been going on for 2 years. Everyone knows it. We get the ball we get tackled. They get the ball to the outside and its off to the races. It's not rocket science - it's coaching pure and simple. Its structure and discipline. The whole game is structure and discipline. We look lost. The players haven't a clue where to run, where to stand, when to kick , where to kick etc. When a player is actually instructed to stand like Jones was on the weekend, the players must think WTF?? Nothing to do with injuries. Its about having a plan that the 40 players can understand and execute. Most clubs do it pretty well yet some here think Goodwin is the messiah and give him a free pass. We need to be angry at what he has done to our team. And now its 'imploding' with McCartney, Jennings and others going.

Jennings gone McCartney gone Rawlings brought back Plapp de-emphasised. Chapman hopeless. But Goody's the man.

It's you.

That can't be right....Its all the surgeries we had over summer....Goody told us.... Some people can't see the nose on their face. So Jennings and Mccartney both gone. Chapman should go and so should Plapp. If we can't get rid of Goodwin we need to get decent assistants pronto.

I could believe it. We have seen it all year. Dumb lazy footballers who look totally lost It's a coaching and leadership issue full stop.

No one covers grass better than we do. It's clearly an explicit instruction not to get too close to your man. F****** madness how our players think they can close down the 'space' when time and time again Oppo players chip it to each other.

At this point, on field leadership is second on the list to the coaching panel of things that need rectifying

Ha ha that's gold. Write shiite and then castigate people who respond saying 'I clearly meant something else'. Maybe take some writing lessons.

Just like when Schwab and Connolly supposedly conspired not to play players who were on game incentives in order to save money.....players not happy...

Yze has been at Hawthorn since the 2014 season. 6 yrs under the best coach of the last 50 years. He'd be a great get.

Did he eat his scarf in frustration?

I'm not a mind reader. Say what you mean. What you said was wrong.

A club with decent leaders would never have this happen. That the players felt they had to go to the PA is a complete indictment on Goodwin and our leadership group.. We are still feeling the effects because we have no leadership other than Gawn and Goodwin and his coaching staff are clueless how to fix our 'game plan'. Headless chooks the lot of them

You have nailed it. Amazing some can't see this. The coaching department have completely lost the players. They have no idea how to fix it. Yeah, keep blaming injuries. FMD