Demon Disciple

i really don't care about the priority pick, i just want us to finish with pick 2, in order to Cotchin or Kreuzer. it just so happens that a PP will come with it. BONUS

If Sheedy announced that he wished to continue coaching, i would keep a close eye on the Tigers over the coming weeks!! As said earlier, Melbourne needs to get their arse into gear, in order to capitalise on the situation. Sending a contract over to him this arvo is a bit early. Give him time to see where he's at. Send the contract over to him tomorrow morning, with Gardner delivering it to his front door!!! If the MFC could sign up Sheedy, watch the membership level hit record heights next year, despite this year from hell.

if you were able to get Wojinski, i'd have you on around $750,000 a year!!!

He's gonna cost more than that. I don't know how many picks the MFC will want to make in the draft, but if we are to successfully "re-build", then i reckon our 1st round pick, if we get another 1st round pick through trade, and if we get a priority pick, all 3 should not be traded away. Ife we weren't to get a priority pick, then i believe we would need to keep our second rounder. i do agree though drake, that we should be trying to get Warnock. Hopefully we might be able to trade some players for picks during trade week, but i doubt we will go on a trading spree, especially given the much publicised lack of depth in this year's draft compared to others. CAC will definately have his hands full come trade week. Although many criticise the length of trade week (i am one of them), it looks like CAC will need as much time as possible, to get the best out of trade week for the MFC

i'm not even 50% sold on Pagan. Too right you are condemned, if we are after an experienced coach, it should be Sheedy.

One man is not bigger than the team. It's as simple as that. Even if it was Robbo's 200th game, he will never nor should be bigger than the team. He was pretty much a waste of a position on the field for the majority of the game. He has been doing this for quite a few weeks now. But he has been saved by a goal here and a goal there. Woop dee doo it's his 200th game. Robbo has been playing selfish football, maybe not deliberately, but he does not chase, he rarely stays with his man, whilst he always tries for the spectacular mark, almost always goes to ground. He is hurting the team, and his 1 or 2 goals don't make up for that. The opposition would be scoring more goals because of his lack of interest outside the 50, unless of course he were to be getting the ball (Selfish :angry: ). His lack of offensive pressure requires Neitz to chase Robbo's player half the time. Thank god Sylvia and Newton are in the forward line! At least they chase and put pressure on the opposition. Sure you can say, "he's a great club-man and it was his 200th game". But please.............., wake up and come back to reality. Robbo costs the team more than he helps it. And until he realises this and does something about it, he should not be on the ground. Not 1 player is bigger than the team, especially not Robbo.

Depending on how Juice goes for the rest of the season, and if he fires during the NAB cup next year, i'd start Newton at FF, then rotate him with Neitz.

He almost took another high flyer, but couldn't hold on to it in the last quarter. This is just a thought, but with Newton jumping higher than Robbo, yet not hurting the team anywhere near as much, would it be too ridiculous an idea to put Robbo on the market. Sure, he bleeds for this club, but he is too lazy, selfish and irresponsible. For a so called "leader of the club", he is not the example the MFC should be showing to the younger brigade. i'm not saying that we need to trade him, but is it a ridiculous idea? After all, we might get something decent for him

Robert Warnock would seemingly come at much lesser price. Sure he's young, but with time he should develop into our no.1 ruckman (should we get him). PJ would be more than acceptable as a back up ruckman, and Neaves could do some pinch hitting, from time to time.

Agree with you there Hannibal Rd 22, you have nothing to play for, except 4 points that are meaningless. On the other hand, we could lose, ensuring Carlton don't get the priority pick, virtually giving us pick 2, and either Kreuzer or Cotchin to play for us next year. One blemish frowned upon is worth it, in order to have a better chance in the years to come.

No to Connolly for me as well. Sure he's a great bloke, but with the team he had, they should've been top 4. The same with us, injuries aside, hence why Daniher went. Daniher and Connolly are mirror images of each other. Both underperformed with their lists, great personalities, great relationship with the players, picked favourites instead those who deserved a go, etc............. As the cliche goes, nice guys finish last!!!

SEN and their rumours can rival those of big footy. But even if Connolly was to be appointed, the amount of uproar from the supporters might see him sacked as soon as he's appointed. Either that or the MFC might go into damage control next year with membership only reaching 10,000, if that. Paul Gardner did the right thing in changing the coach (however rough it was). He shouldn't go and throw it all away by appointing someone that is an exact replica of Daniher.

Point taken,....................... but oh dear

Given how we have performed this year, i wouldn't expect us to win many more games this season. Kreuzer and Cotchin are the 2 gems of the draft. There is no way that Kreuzer will drop to number 2 in the draft. If we were to finish 2nd last, no doubt we will pick up Cotchin, he is too good to overlook. If we were to finish 3rd last, there would be a number of possible players we could pick. The top 2 is Kreuzer > kilometres > Cotchin > Miles Cotchin ain't afraid to go in and get the ball himself, would add class to our midfield, and pace to boot. We could possibly trade 1 of TJ, Green or Bruce and get a decent pick for them (1st rounder). If we were to get a PP as well, we could have picks 2-3, 10-15, 18 PP, 20-21. The draft doesn't have great depth this year, but there will still be some good players left at 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. With some players dropping down the order, we could pick up quite a few youngsters with a decent future ahead of them. This would further complement our developing group of talented youngsters that could bring the MFC it's first premiership in decades, as well as kick-starting our re-building phase (however big or small).

Robbo's naivety may and should come back to haunt him. A team touted as top 4, yet we are 2nd last on the ladder and will finish in the bottom 2-3. Heads will roll as they should, and for a player to say that no drastic action will be taken (implying no action needs to be taken) is very disconcerting. Too many players at the MFC don't fully understand that playing football is their job. Usually what happens when u fail, is you get sacked. No major changes Robbo??? LOL, mate for that ignorance, i wouldn't mind you being threatened to have your head put on the chopping block.

Robbo's naivety may and should come back to haunt him. A team touted as top 4, yet we are 2nd last on the ladder and will finish in the bottom 2-3. Heads will roll as they should, and for a player to say that no drastic action will be taken (implying no action needs to be taken) is very disconcerting. Too many players at the MFC fully understand that playing football is their job. Usually what happens when u fail, is you get sacked. No major changes Robbo??? LOL, mate for that ignorance, i wouldn't mind you being threatened to have your head put on the chopping block.

I couldn't really give a stuff if Robbo endorses the coach or not! As suggested earlier in the thread, maybe he is part of the problem. First he endorses Daniher, only for him to resign, now he has endorsed Riley. If the new MFC coach was to be a boot, i wouldn't be surprised if Robbo came out and said that he endorses the boot as well. We could have 3 separate endorsements from Robbo within 3 months.

Right you are Gouga. The amount of revenue generated by Collingwood fans turning up to any game at the MCG would far outweigh playing the game at Skilled. Besides, if Geelong were to make the finals, like they definately will this year, in their opinion, the more you play at the G, the better it is come September.

This season has got a lot of 1990 about it. There are teams up there in the top 4 that could win it, but at the start we thought couldn't (Hawks and Roos, and somewhat Geelong). Then there are the teams that we expected to more than likely win the cup (Freo, Eagles) and there are teams that did alright last year, that are really pressing for a top 4 and ultimately a serious shot at winning the cup. There are quite a few teams that could win it this year, they just need to be playing the right type of footy at the right time of year. Very similar to 1990. Although we won't be in the finals, like we were in '90.

it also shows how quickly the premiership window for a team opens and closes (not saying that West Coast's is closing). But when your team has a chance, you need to put everything on the line to win the bloody thing. Something Melbourne have not been able to do for some time.

The MFC need: - A young ruckman to replace White as #1 ruck - A CHF - A quick midfielder, that also goes in a gets it - A tall back around 196cm (who is also agile), to tackle the gorillas or hold down CHB Come draft and trade time the best choices to fill those roles - Robert Warnock (trade) - Lachlan Henderson (draft) - Trent Cothcin (if he is available) - Tom Collier (draft, even though he is only 192cm) Realistically we would only be able to get 1 or 2 of them, 3 if we're extremely lucky

Yes, retrospection's a wonderful thing

Danny Hughes!!! Long have i been on this guy's bandwagon. I always wanted to see him across the HF line with CJ across the HB line. I had a vision that these 2 would rule the flanks. CJ is letting me down a bit, but Danny has a lovely long kick, and is deceptively taller than what he looks. He can jump too! I wouldn't mind seeing him as our crumber in the forward line. He's quick doesn't mind getting in there, and he also provides another legitimate target in the forward line. Of all the rookies i would keep Neaves and Hughes.

I would have thought Schwartz was rather good. Even after he had 3 knee reconstructions, he turned out to be one of our best CHF's in quite some time.

Totally agree Herb. Sure, he has pulled some absolute rippers, but so have pretty much every other team and their respective recruiting managers. Look at Goodes and O'Keefe for Sydney, Kerr for the Weagles, etc... CAC is very good, but so too are many other recruiter's. Somehow i think i can see our list improving, even when CAC leaves (whenever that may be).